I lose

[Shazaam]

If he's really supposedly an ESTj, why don't we just try to mingle/interact to see if we obviously conflict. Wouldn't that be the better way to do it?

[Gilly]

No, because your natural disposition would affect the interaction. Plus, there's the internet factor. If we could observe him interact with an IEI in real time, that would be something to go on. But then, if we had that, we could observe him in IRL period, would should be enough.

[Gilly]

Seriously though, I want an answer, so this thread can be in the right place: do you want people to discuss your Socionics type, or your Model X type?

Since the other one was at the bottom of the page...

[ArchonAlarion]

Well he is my best friend... and my sister whom he has known for years is Fe INFp...

Turns out, they can get along. Superficially. I talk to my sister about socionics, she is not interested in Tom's personality whatsoever. And I doubt he'd get along with her in prolonged interaction.

So, yeah. If you want an irl example that's one.

But obviously I'd expect you to take that with a grain of salt.

I have more examples, but I dont want to bring them up because since I know Tom irl, i dont want him to get possibly upset.

[Ritella]

Uh PEOPLE. Socionics should not require this much investment of your ego. Most people have crap typings and good typings. Some people know this stuff better than others. The only way this community will function and productive discussions will occur is if we all approach this as a learning experience- i.e. leave your ego at the login page.
Can we please stop with the "campaigning" that takes place within each discussion? Whether its purpose is to prove yourself a socionics expert or to prove others socionics idiots, it doesn't need to happen. When we get into political tactics and power struggles like this, it just places the focus away from the facts and logic and turns it into a competition between a douchebag and a turd sandwhich.

[Mattie]

Uh PEOPLE. Socionics should not require this much investment of your ego. Most people have crap typings and good typings. Some people know this stuff better than others. The only way this community will function and productive discussions will occur is if we all approach this as a learning experience- i.e. leave you ego at the logic page.
Can we please stop with the "campaigning" that takes place within eah discussion. Whether its purpose is to prove yourself a socionics expert or to prove others socionics idiots, it doesn't need to happen. When we get into political tactics and power struggles like this, it just places the focus away from the fact and logic and turns it into a competition between a douchebag and a turd sandwhich.

And I thought I was the only one feeling this way. Is it really necessary to bicker so much? Let's try to find more common ground than separating ourselves.

[Park]

Uh PEOPLE. Socionics should not require this much investment of your ego. Most people have crap typings and good typings. Some people know this stuff better than others. The only way this community will function and productive discussions will occur is if we all approach this as a learning experience- i.e. leave your ego at the login page.
Can we please stop with the "campaigning" that takes place within each discussion? Whether its purpose is to prove yourself a socionics expert or to prove others socionics idiots, it doesn't need to happen. When we get into political tactics and power struggles like this, it just places the focus away from the facts and logic and turns it into a competition between a douchebag and a turd sandwhich.

And I thought I was the only one feeling this way. Is it really necessary to bicker so much? Let's try to find more common ground than separating ourselves.

<3

[JuJu]

Uh PEOPLE. Socionics should not require this much investment of your ego. Most people have crap typings and good typings. Some people know this stuff better than others. The only way this community will function and productive discussions will occur is if we all approach this as a learning experience- i.e. leave your ego at the login page.
Can we please stop with the "campaigning" that takes place within each discussion? Whether its purpose is to prove yourself a socionics expert or to prove others socionics idiots, it doesn't need to happen. When we get into political tactics and power struggles like this, it just places the focus away from the facts and logic and turns it into a competition between a douchebag and a turd sandwhich.

This post should be stickied.

You know, I'll be honest, I don't get what the problem is... I'm not saying anything heavy, you know, just a couple of people don't like the way I'm saying it... Who fucking cares how I'm saying it?

I'm just talking about Socionics... I mean, there are people starving in Africa... There's no need to get your knickers in a twist about the stuff I'm saying

I'm trying to help.

It's bullshit, these two want me to post in some deferential way... I'm not a PR agent... I'm here because I like talking about this stuff. That's it... If they don't like how I'm saying it, there's an ignore feature.

[Park]

Calm down, J-man. That's all you really need to do. :wink:

[Subteigh]

This post should be stickied.

You know, I'll be honest, I don't get what everybody's problem is... I'm not saying anything heavy--just a couple of people don't like the way I'm saying it... You know, who cares how I'm saying it?

I care how you say it.

I'm just talking about Socionics... I mean, there are people starving in Africa... There's no need to get your knickers in a twist about the stuff I'm saying about fucking Socionics.

Go and do something about the people starving in Africa then rather than make this point.

I'm just trying to help.

You are clearly not just trying to help, and you may not even be helping at all. You claimed that "I'm not here to teach you... I talk to who I want about what I want and that's it". You seem to think you know how to help the great unwashed better than they know how to help themselves, and you certainly don't seem to think they can provide you with anything.

[JuJu]

Calm down, J-man. That's all you need to do. No one's pointing fingers at you.

You're right... I get wound up, you know? I've never been one to suffer foolishness gladly and it's a short-coming.

[Subteigh]

You're right... I get wound up, you know? I've never been one to suffer foolishness gladly and it's a short-coming.

But of course we've got to do our own research into why you think we're foolish, because of course you don't have to tell us! Congratulations on arguing with a person you always knew was cracked...makes you look very wise!

[JuJu]

But of course we've got to do our own research into why you think we're foolish, because of course you don't have to tell us! Congratulations on arguing with a person you always knew was cracked...makes you look very wise!

You feel better now?

I'm sorry that I hit a sore spot with that "cracked" remark.

This conversation is not giving any pleasure or benefiting anyone, so let's move on.

[Park]

[Subteigh]

You feel better now?

I'm sorry that I hit a sore spot with that "cracked" remark.

You haven't actually proved that I am cracked, and I don't believe many people would believe this. Further more, I don't believe many people would believe that I care about you calling me cracked, excepy apart from an out of a concern that you are saying something without backing up your claim.

[Ritella]

[JuJu]

You haven't actually proved that I am cracked, and I don't believe many people would believe this. Further more, I don't believe many people would believe that I care about you calling me cracked, excepy apart from an out of a concern that you are saying something without backing up your claim.

I hope you look at this thread again someday, Subterranean, and either laugh at what you've written or bring it to your therapist.

Please PM me if you want to keep going on... Other people don't need this clutter.

[Ritella]

I hope you look at this thread again someday, Subterranean, and either laugh at what you've written or bring it to your therapist.

Please PM me if you want to keep going on... Other people don't need this clutter.

okay. can we PLEASE refrain from any kind of implications of insanity, idiocy, etc. we all do this from time to time and- even if you want to look at the situation utilitarianly- it's not in anyone's best interest because you won't like it when it is done to you.

[Subteigh]

I hope you look at this thread again someday, Subterranean, and either laugh at what you've written or bring it to your therapist.

Please PM me if you want to keep going on... Other people don't need this clutter.

Stop telling people what they need and provide some evidence for what you say.

[JuJu]

okay. can we PLEASE refrain from any kind of implications of insanity, idiocy, etc. we all do this from time to time and- even if you want to look at the situation utilitarianly- it's not in anyone's best interest because you won't like it when it is done to you.

I get where you're coming from... And I get that he's just letting off steam.

I'm hoping he takes me up on "let's move on" eventually.

[Subteigh]

I get where you're coming from... And I get that he's just letting off steam.

I'm hoping he takes me up on "let's move on" eventually.

Why would I follow your advice? You may be certain that you are right, but you don't justify the reasons for your certainity.

[Park]

Ok, now STOP IT!



p.s. The last one to reply gets a marshmallow.

[Brilliand]

p.s. The last one to reply gets a marshmallow.

Boo.

Someone close the thread, quick!

[Ritella]

well fuck I want a marshmallow.

my head looks like a marshmallow.

[Mattie]

Can I have fluff for a sandwich instead?

[Ritella]

k, I'll pat your marshmallow. if that doesn't sound too creepy, that is.

yay!

[Creepy-bg]

TITS OR GTFO?

[Ezra]

well fuck I want a marshmallow.

TITS OR GTFO?

[Ezra]

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