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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    I think I would generally agree, but I'd have to understand Fi better. I'm reading sources but it's still not totally clear to me. I think Fi is about how you feel about someone, and how someone feels about you.
    It's like Ti vs Te.


    But I don't necessarily agree that Fe is more "general", I think that has more to do with intuition.
    It's hard to use wording that can't be misinterpreted, I didn't mean general in the intuitive way. Just less.. personal.


    What I said explained:

    Fe: Wow, what you just said was totally offensive. > Disturbing the emotion of others

    Can't you understand how he feels? > Inability to read other's emotions

    How can you be so insensitive? > Inability to understand other's feelings or disturbing the emotion of others

    How can you not understand what he's FEELING? > Again, inability to understand other's feelings
    I said it was slightly ambiguous because some of this depends on the actual presentation whether more Fi or Fe focused, which is especially seen well IRL. But that whole thing together is just really Fi focused to me because - if I were to be the recipient of the criticism - it's kinda questioning my own sensitivity about the personal feelings of mine and other people's. And that's absolutely Fi. Do you see what I mean?

    So for example, where you talk of "disturbing the emotion of others" here is a good example of Fi, the way you put it, due to your linking emotion to the individual, makes me think of having to be very careful of all the different personal feelings. It makes me feel like I have to focus on each person as their own individual, with much sensitivity required to not upset them with something silly.


    "Do you not have any feelings yourself?"

    Well honestly... I think a lot of Fe type say stuff like this, like "You have no feelings/emotion", and that usually hurt Te types because it makes them feel like robots.
    I hear this a LOT from Fi types and I see it as Fi criticism. It doesn't hurt me, I don't really care.

    The Fe types will instead just do something with the atmosphere and I can react to that/enjoy that, and to that it's irrelevant whether I have enough focus on personal feelings.

    Do you understand why I said this one was really really Fi?


    I don't really think that it's a criticism of Fi, because it's not concerned with your attitude toward someone, but just having feelings in general, like happiness or anger.
    That was really really not clear from your original writing, it was seemingly all focused on the feelings of the person as an attitude towards someone else's feelings. Again, that's Fi to me.

    None of your example mentioned externally expressed emotional states of happiness or anger.


    Basically, it's disturbing to Fe types when others lack emotion.
    No, then how would ExE dualize with LxI? I find it's truly disturbing to the Fi types only. In my experience Fe types don't criticize it, or they might joke about it, but no such serious criticism like the one you are talking about, they will just instead focus on getting things (emotionally) moving and I easily go along with it.

    I guess lack of receptivity, unwillingness to go along with it is what would be disturbing to Fe types and explicitly seen as "lacking emotion", maybe, I don't know, some Fe ego would have to chime in here.
    Last edited by Myst; 01-28-2017 at 01:55 PM.

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