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    lol wut?

    Not only do I think that's false about Se valuers, but I'm not even doing that. In fact, that is the opposite of what I believe. I'm just pointing out that certain things seem to be going over ya head.
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    Sometimes you call people idiots, and that's a clear sign you value Se? Uh, I'm a native English speaker (though Ezra might disagree with that) who caught the sarcasm immediately.
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    lol I understand the concept of ad hominem fallacies, bud. Sometimes you just come out of nowhere with these crazy assertions on the forum and the language barrier isn't helping.

    Also, the main issues in my life have been with gamma SF's. I dislike their "shut-up" tactics and refusal to see the logic of what I'm saying. I hate when people try to intimidate me or just yell their opinion to win.

    So, once again you are wrong, sir.
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    I don't think that method of argumentation is typical of Gamma SFs, or any reasonable/intelligent human being for that matter...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    dude, you have in no way whatsoever given any actual proof of how I'm ISTj.

    I'm not "loosing it" at all. lolll.

    How did I not justify myself? Really, please explain this to me.

    I'm not pretending anything, jackass. I have given plenty of evidence in my videos for ILE...

    Go look on the member's video thread on page 15 and watch the videos.
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    Neither of you is going to convince the other of anything; that much is obvious. I suggest that you both give it up before this gets too personal.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    yeah I realized that. I really don't care tbh. I'm confident in my self typing, he can call me an ISTj (lol). Whatever man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Some people in the community Niffweed has typed:

    Ashton
    Allie
    Dolphin
    Strrrng
    Ritella
    Tom
    Hitta
    Myself

    Niffweed's typings of those people:

    ESTp
    INFp
    INFp
    ISTj
    ENFj
    ISTj
    INFp
    INFp *fixed
    How is that everyone?
    unless the forum only consists of those people.
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    Ephemeros, like I said: I can tell you all the ways I'm ILE, but at the end of the day you are extremely stubborn and your also pretty damn arrogant.

    I don't feel you've brought up ANY thing relevant to myself, and most of your arguments are based on ridiculous things like "Se types look down on foreign languages". wtf.

    I'm not going to argue with you until you actually bring up a good point.
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    On second thought, just for you Ephemeros, I will later today reply directly to all your questions and comments.

    I was looking over them again and I noticed you have some serious misconceptions of myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Some people in the community Niffweed has typed:
    How does "some" translate to "everyone"? How do eight members constitute the majority of this site, when there are almost a thousand members?

    What community are you talking about, by the way?

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    He's pointing out that everyone who disagrees with niffweed on a direct level becomes a beta; odd, isn't it?
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    I don't think that's quite the case.

    While he is posting rather sensibly there, Archon is saying that, consciously or otherwise, niffweed places people who disagree with him almost immediately into beta, and this is the problem.

    The issue is that it gets by unchecked, and serves to further all the bullshit that's been spewing more and more heavily from the mouths of the members who have no idea what they're talking about.
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    They really have to upgrade, man.

    I'm sure Niffweed can get around tin foil hats by now.

    I mean... if he can learn how to open doors... whats next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    consciously or otherwise, niffweed places people who disagree with him almost immediately into beta, and this is the problem.

    The issue is that it gets by unchecked, and serves to further all the bullshit that's been spewing more and more heavily from the mouths of the members who have no idea what they're talking about.
    Well-put.

    It's been brought to Niffweed's attention before; however, his typings have remained fairly consistent (ly spotty,) and biased, as you've pointed out.

    I've come to take his typings, (and other rantings,) with a grain of salt. I know others do too.

    He doesn't post much here anymore... During the bad old days, nearly every other post was a piece of Niffweed-spam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    lol, indeed it is:

    If you have windows XP.
    Open notepad.
    Write there: niff hid the facts
    Save it as niff.txt
    And reopen it.

    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    I don't think that's quite the case.

    While he is posting rather sensibly there, Archon is saying that, consciously or otherwise, niffweed places people who disagree with him almost immediately into beta, and this is the problem.
    So really all you're trying to do is protect the forum from niffweed's bullshit? I've tried crusading on internet forums, too. It doesn't do anything but piss people off (particularly the mods, who are forced to deal with the inevitable disintegration into thinly veiled ad hominem bouts). If you want to trash talk people because you disapprove of their methods, I'd suggest PMs as a more appropriate medium.

    The issue is that it gets by unchecked, and serves to further all the bullshit that's been spewing more and more heavily from the mouths of the members who have no idea what they're talking about.
    I don't see any logical connection between niffweed being allowed to type people as he sees fit, and some baseless idea that an unspecified general populace of members who don't deserve credibility are getting it.

    If you are proposing to check and tag the typing methods of everyone who wants to express their opinion, well...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    He's pointing out that everyone who disagrees with niffweed on a direct level becomes a beta; odd, isn't it?
    this is not factually accurate.

    here's a list of people who have disagreed with me on something who i do not type as beta; indeed, who i type as something other than beta:

    aleesha
    anndelise
    bee
    bionicgoat
    calenwen
    coolguy89
    cyclops
    dee
    diana
    dioklecian
    expat
    gulanzon
    hkkmr
    hoodrat
    imfd95
    implied
    jriddy
    jxrtes
    logos
    minde
    mn0good
    munenori2
    pinkcanary
    reyn til runa
    rick
    r*****
    rsv3
    scarlettlux
    slacker mom
    snegledmaca
    steve
    subterranean
    suomea
    tereg
    thehotelambush
    themime
    tiny dancer


    note that this is also equivalent to the list of people in my userlist, with betas removed and people who i have barely have interacted with enough to be sure that they've ever explicitly disagreed with me on something.

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    Niffweed is terrible at typing and at socionics, what's new?

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    Way to beat a dead hooker.

    I mean, horse.

    ...cuz, you know...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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