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    Some people in the community Niffweed has typed:

    Ashton
    Allie
    Dolphin
    Strrrng
    Ritella
    Tom
    Hitta
    Myself

    Niffweed's typings of those people:

    ESTp
    INFp
    INFp
    ISTj
    ENFj
    ISTj
    INFp
    INFp *fixed

    Therefore the quadra's of those people:

    BETA
    BETA
    BETA
    BETA (Beta self typing though)
    BETA
    BETA
    BETA
    BETA

    Hmmm I think I see a pattern....

    COINCIDENCE?

    YOU DECIDE!

    Idk perhaps its just me being an LSI not being able to think outside of the box, or maybe its just Niffweed being passive aggressive? Who will ever know?

    The fact is though that everyone is actually in beta quadra. Really everyone is. Dont doubt motha-fucka.

    Even you BG, yes you. You're actually ESTp because I saw you get mad once, but it wasn't about a person it was about a philosophy, so thats how I know Ti>Fi.

    Oh and Ephemeros you're in here too. Sometimes you call people idiots in your posts, and that's a sure sign of Se valuing. You're actually an ENFj.

    It is inconceivable that anyone is not in Beta. Also 50% of people are INFp.

    That is all.

    Now get back to digging gold for the hivemind, beta scum!


    *edit: Hmm whilst reviewing this list I did make a neat discovery.

    Turns out these specific people regularily disagree with Niffweed on socionics topics.

    The fools.
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    two of these typings are not mine. go do your homework again.

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    User:Niffweed17/userlist - Wikisocion

    and which would those be?

    perhaps this list is outdated...

    Then again Ive heard you say all of those typings


    turns out this thread has already been made.

    what a freakin surprise.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...orum-beta.html
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    Niffweed types you as LSI?

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    ohhh okay, sorry cyclops I misread him let me fix that....

    *edit: fixed
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Then again Ive heard you say all of those typings
    no, you have not. one of the typings you had listed is one that i have never espoused. you have, however fixed it.

    and yes, that list is out of date.

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    here are the numbers:

    alpha: 31
    beta: 51
    gamma: 21
    delta: 9


    the possibility of some quadra bias in my typing is discussed briefly in this thread: socionics.ws - View topic - quadra over/underrepresentation

    there are good reasons to think of this community as basically beta-centric. i am leery of the lopsidedness of those numbers, though.

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    Nah, I'm clearly Gamma.

    Check out my moral hardline!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Hmmm I think I see a pattern....
    Could you add me to the list, he also typed me as INFP (Beta)

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    Last I checked he had me as INTj, i'm special!

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    For what it's worth, you, Archon, are the only person from that list that I cannot see as a Beta. strrrng is definitely a Beta, by self-typing and that of others. Dolphin used to self-type as IEI for a while, so I'm not sure where the beef with that is coming from. Hitta could easily be IEI, and while I'm hesitant to voice any opinion on Ritella's type, to be fair, I could potentially see her as a Beta NF, although I think IEE is most likely. And of course, there has been a lot of debate over Tom's type, so I'm not sure why you would point to the typing of him as LSI as a beacon of niffweed's alleged absurdity. As for Ashton and Allie, well, I think both of them are Betas, so you get no votes from me on those.

    In short, what's the big deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    and while I'm hesitant to voice any opinion on Ritella's type, to be fair, I could potentially see her as a Beta NF, although I think IEE is most likely.
    just curious, why IEE > EII? and do you really think EII is not likely?
    EII; E6(w5)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    just curious, why IEE > EII? and do you really think EII is not likely?
    You seem a bit too bubbly/nautrally effusive to be Fe ignoring, IMO.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Some people in the community Niffweed has typed:

    Ashton
    Allie
    Dolphin
    Strrrng
    Ritella
    Tom
    Hitta
    Myself

    Niffweed's typings of those people:

    ESTp
    INFp
    INFp
    ISTj
    ENFj
    ISTj
    INFp
    INFp *fixed
    How is that everyone?
    unless the forum only consists of those people.
    INTp
    sx/sp

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Some people in the community Niffweed has typed:
    How does "some" translate to "everyone"? How do eight members constitute the majority of this site, when there are almost a thousand members?

    What community are you talking about, by the way?

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    He's pointing out that everyone who disagrees with niffweed on a direct level becomes a beta; odd, isn't it?
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    I don't think that's quite the case.

    While he is posting rather sensibly there, Archon is saying that, consciously or otherwise, niffweed places people who disagree with him almost immediately into beta, and this is the problem.

    The issue is that it gets by unchecked, and serves to further all the bullshit that's been spewing more and more heavily from the mouths of the members who have no idea what they're talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    consciously or otherwise, niffweed places people who disagree with him almost immediately into beta, and this is the problem.

    The issue is that it gets by unchecked, and serves to further all the bullshit that's been spewing more and more heavily from the mouths of the members who have no idea what they're talking about.
    Well-put.

    It's been brought to Niffweed's attention before; however, his typings have remained fairly consistent (ly spotty,) and biased, as you've pointed out.

    I've come to take his typings, (and other rantings,) with a grain of salt. I know others do too.

    He doesn't post much here anymore... During the bad old days, nearly every other post was a piece of Niffweed-spam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    I don't think that's quite the case.

    While he is posting rather sensibly there, Archon is saying that, consciously or otherwise, niffweed places people who disagree with him almost immediately into beta, and this is the problem.
    So really all you're trying to do is protect the forum from niffweed's bullshit? I've tried crusading on internet forums, too. It doesn't do anything but piss people off (particularly the mods, who are forced to deal with the inevitable disintegration into thinly veiled ad hominem bouts). If you want to trash talk people because you disapprove of their methods, I'd suggest PMs as a more appropriate medium.

    The issue is that it gets by unchecked, and serves to further all the bullshit that's been spewing more and more heavily from the mouths of the members who have no idea what they're talking about.
    I don't see any logical connection between niffweed being allowed to type people as he sees fit, and some baseless idea that an unspecified general populace of members who don't deserve credibility are getting it.

    If you are proposing to check and tag the typing methods of everyone who wants to express their opinion, well...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    He's pointing out that everyone who disagrees with niffweed on a direct level becomes a beta; odd, isn't it?
    this is not factually accurate.

    here's a list of people who have disagreed with me on something who i do not type as beta; indeed, who i type as something other than beta:

    aleesha
    anndelise
    bee
    bionicgoat
    calenwen
    coolguy89
    cyclops
    dee
    diana
    dioklecian
    expat
    gulanzon
    hkkmr
    hoodrat
    imfd95
    implied
    jriddy
    jxrtes
    logos
    minde
    mn0good
    munenori2
    pinkcanary
    reyn til runa
    rick
    r*****
    rsv3
    scarlettlux
    slacker mom
    snegledmaca
    steve
    subterranean
    suomea
    tereg
    thehotelambush
    themime
    tiny dancer


    note that this is also equivalent to the list of people in my userlist, with betas removed and people who i have barely have interacted with enough to be sure that they've ever explicitly disagreed with me on something.

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    Niffweed is terrible at typing and at socionics, what's new?

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    Way to beat a dead hooker.

    I mean, horse.

    ...cuz, you know...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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