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    Default ISFps, ESFjs and extraverted sensing Se

    When an Alpha SF has to use Se, what does it look like? How does it feel for them? How do they typically react to Se?
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    they won't use it really.
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    I didn't want to bring model x into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamajama View Post
    I didn't want to bring model x into it.
    ahh

    my motives are so clear.

    *note to self... work on subtley*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    "Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    "Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."

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    meh .. I'm derailing my own thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    When an Alpha SF has to use Se, what does it look like? How does it feel for them? How do they typically react to Se?
    I'm not ESE, but I have a friend who I'm pretty sure is, so I can give my perspective that way. (Though, knowing how you are defining Se might be helpful; then I could know better how to answer your question.)

    In terms of physical toughness, she's more so than me. Much more. Growing up with two older brothers and no sister might have influenced that. But in any case she would have absolutely no problems if/when she ever wanted to whup me. She played soccer when younger, and according to her own reports could be quite ferocious.

    She's also definitely more spatially aware than me. That may be more Si, though.

    In terms of non-physical forcefulness, it depends on the circumstance. She can be quite firm, especially when she's in charge. But I've never seen her be really mean about it. It's usually more like, "These are the rules/principles, and these are the consequences. I'm sorry you don't like that, but that's the way it is." Sometimes she doesn't always see alternatives, but she's considerate of other people and tends to cater to their wants when possible.

    I think sometimes I have more of an "allergic" reaction to people being controlling of me/us. She'll either go along with it (unless I point out why we shouldn't and offer an alternative), or just matter-of-factly break the rules or do things her way. I seem to have more inner turmoil over it all.

    As far as bullying goes... I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure she'd defend me if I ever needed it. And she's said that when she was younger her brothers would pick on her. But she would often fight back.

    Does that help at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    I'm not ESE, but I have a friend who I'm pretty sure is, so I can give my perspective that way. (Though, knowing how you are defining Se might be helpful; then I could know better how to answer your question.)

    In terms of physical toughness, she's more so than me. Much more. Growing up with two older brothers and no sister might have influenced that. But in any case she would have absolutely no problems if/when she ever wanted to whup me. She played soccer when younger, and according to her own reports could be quite ferocious.

    She's also definitely more spatially aware than me. That may be more Si, though.

    In terms of non-physical forcefulness, it depends on the circumstance. She can be quite firm, especially when she's in charge. But I've never seen her be really mean about it. It's usually more like, "These are the rules/principles, and these are the consequences. I'm sorry you don't like that, but that's the way it is." Sometimes she doesn't always see alternatives, but she's considerate of other people and tends to cater to their wants when possible.

    I think sometimes I have more of an "allergic" reaction to people being controlling of me/us. She'll either go along with it (unless I point out why we shouldn't and offer an alternative), or just matter-of-factly break the rules or do things her way. I seem to have more inner turmoil over it all.

    As far as bullying goes... I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure she'd defend me if I ever needed it. And she's said that when she was younger her brothers would pick on her. But she would often fight back.

    Does that help at all?
    Yeah, thanks. (c:

    Could you describe more what you mean by "allergic reaction"?
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    and ISFp is totally using Se right now on the Alpha drawball.
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    The end is nigh

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