lol @ yelling at the spanish lady. Either way, most people here have gotten it right: you lost control, and in your quest to "one-up" the girl who "disrespected" you, you ended up falling short and looking haphazard.Originally Posted by smccosker
lol @ yelling at the spanish lady. Either way, most people here have gotten it right: you lost control, and in your quest to "one-up" the girl who "disrespected" you, you ended up falling short and looking haphazard.
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u understand me really well, have u considered being a therapist??? cause id pay you for ur help
nice to know im not an enigma sometimes, i will look into the book too
Alrite, I am going to say this. Sean and I live very close to each other, we see the same people in the street, we went to two high school that is about 10 minutes drive, and we see the same people in taco bells and any other kind of retail stores. I've been working in Walgreens for maybe about three years now, when sean mentioned the "teenage Hispanic girls" I automaticlly have in mind just exactly what kind of people they were, and my past experiences just pop up immediately. I am usually a very nice person, I believe in peace, but the matter is there is people in this world that just needs to be taught the conseqences of their actions. These girls and becuase they are young, pretty, follow the style of the "cool people and MTV" show themselves off like they are high maintence when they are really not interested people to begin with, can go a long way into acting a role of the "I am a bitch and I get what I want behavior" During my three years of experiences in walgreens I have met plenty of them and I want to do exactly the same as what sean had done to them. They don't vaule Se/NI and that is the key, they don't understand boundary and limits in territory, as well as the consequences of their actions, all while they still think they are on top of the world. Added to the fact that people who have seen these people their whole life like me and sean will add that extra elements of repulsiveness towards them and to know just exactly how to deal with them. I definity understand the fight and flight mode that sean was talking about. They don't take things seriously and do not understand that their behavior, if put themselves in that situation can be hard to grasp. I really cannot judge if sean did a horrorible things but I definity can admit to it that at times I really want to leash out on people who have no respect to other people like that.
(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
I hesitate to assume that they're Judicial... Gammamay not respect the
conception of territory that's used in Beta. Imo ESFp is the type that most needs to learn the consequences of their actions... from their duals, of course. That is, ESFp is the most out-of-control type.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
lol. i'm going to have to say that there's more than a bit of truth in this...
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
Is that a new new socionic terms?
(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
I am thinking about this and I think this is very interesting, TBH, I was orginally referring to another type, but I definity can see what you mean.I hesitate to assume that they're Judicial... Gamma
(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
ESE, right? That was what I first thought of.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
lol, for about five minutes in high school, I did think about becoming a therapist. But I'd feel weird getting paid for something like that. These sorts of things are actually not as uncommon as most people would think, IME. It's just bubbling right under the surface for many people, and it might take a depressive episode or a major loss to reveal the parts of ourselves we don't want to see. I forget where I heard this but: "All the people I ever knew who have their shit together were standing in it."u understand me really well, have u considered being a therapist??? cause id pay you for ur help
nice to know im not an enigma sometimes, i will look into the book too
So yeah, don't worry so much about having to assert yourself. Most of our problems are based around fighting wars that don't exist (like "me against the rest of the world").
There are millions of spoiled, entitled people out there in the world. There are millions of people who are arrogant, self-involved, bitchy, insensitive, judgmental, etc. We all have certain things that set us off. When you walk around fighting this mental war with the pervasive rudeness of the world, you are setting yourself up for heart failure in the near future. The only way to come out of situations like that with your own dignity (and sanity) in tact is not to get involved in the first place. Lily Tomlin once said: "The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win, you’re still a rat."
From Marcus Aurelius:
"Begin each day by telling yourself: Today I shall be meeting with interference, ingratitude, insolence, disloyalty, ill will, and selfishness -- all of them due to the offenders' ignorance of what is good or evil. But for my part I have long perceived the nature of good and its nobility, the nature of evil and its cruelty, and also the nature of the culprit himself, who is my brother; therefore none of those things can injure me, for nobody can implicate me in what is degrading."
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"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
i didnt want to get involved but a part of me said "this is ridiculous, instead of being like everyone else and ignoring it ima do somethin about it" and I did, and I feel proud of myself for doing so. i realized last night, while trying to meditate that ignoring the outside world is not who i am. I dont like dealing with feelings inside myself and dwelling on why such and such happened and "i wish i wouldve done something". that leads to depression for me. fuck that, i like being active and "restless" and if something bothers me I have to do something about it...i feel better inside only if i respond and handle what i feel i have to. i cant ignore things...if i do i feel dead inside.
What can I say, I understand that the environment mimicks some environments I have seen around and been (not for long, thankfully); given this, I agree with numbers that your reaction wasn't that unwarranted. From a completely detached perspective, maybe it was, but I can emphatize with your choice.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I see where you're coming from, but you don't actually have to deal with your feelings, really. When most of us try to deal with feelings, it usually means we're trying to make them go away. But what if you could just sit there and let the feelings be? You mentioned meditating - this is actually a big part of meditation practices in Buddhist traditions. Learn to just sit with the unpleasant emotions - all the contractions in your body and the ugly thoughts - without having to do anything about them.
Why do this? Well, when you learn to just accept your feelings without being driven by them, that's true freedom. That's true strength. You can go about doing what you need to do with your life without becoming so distracted by emotion-centered living. It's when you get distracted from your true purpose that you end up feeling lost and feel like you've lost control over your life. And when you're always afraid that your emotions will get the best of you and make you do stupid thing, you end up developing a fear-based relationship with your emotions. You lose time that you could have spent on doing something fun or constructive.
Right now you seem like you're feeling lost and and just free-floating from day to day. (Of course, I may just be reading too much into your posts, so take this with a grain of salt.) If that's the case, I've been there. That's a pretty scary feeling. It's like you're in a car rolling down the highway at 120mph, and the steering wheel isn't working and the breaks have been cut. Life goes by and you feel like you aren't able to take advantage of it. It's a helpless feeling, and a joyless one and it causes you to lash out and look for joy and excitement and a feeling of power in stupid places (like a Taco Bell, lol).
The first thing you need to do is establish some sense of direction and purpose that excites you, and doesn't hurt yourself or anyone else. When you have some joy and excitement in your life, little things like annoying teenage girls won't bother you so much. But yeah, that book is pretty great and gives some good practical advice. (And you can actually read it for free at that link.)
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
good thing the book is free to read thats nice, im reading it now
i like that hamster in the picture he makes me smilesometimes it is the little things
Reading back on my posts, it looks like I kind of barraged you with a ton of unsolicited advice heh. Real sorry about that. I hate it when people do that to me. Won't happen again. Glad you liked the hamster though.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
I can see why you would think that, but I think everything you said was very real and genuine. Plus, you're his dualReading back on my posts, it looks like I kind of barraged you with a ton of unsolicited advice heh. Real sorry about that. I hate it when people do that to me. Won't happen again. Glad you liked the hamster though.
I found a lot of what you said helpful as well, on a more general level.
4w3-5w6-8w7
yeah, seriously fucked up.
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