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    I think this is a fantastic illustration of weak Fi.

    Last night I went to a club and later on in the night I observed this group of males and females (people watching in clubs is great fun), and one duo I took notice of. After about five or ten minutes of dancing, I said to her "you're not really that interested in him, are you?" which she didn't hear, so I said it again, and she didn't hear, so I said it a third time, and she looked at me for a few seconds and then said "he's my boyfriend".

    I don't know why I even bothered talking to her - I mean, she wasn't hot at all, so it's not like I wanted her. I think I was just looking to stir up some shit and create some drama, but it only ended in (slight) embarrassment on my part.

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    why would you assume that them being together means she's really interested in him or cares about him? Maybe your observations were correct and it made her uncomfortable

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    Why "embarrassment"? If anything, it shows that you were probably right and that social conformities are more important than genuine feelings. But then, I'd probably feel the same in your situation.
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    lol, maybe she just said that because she wasn't that interested in you, either

    I find it best to only ask open ended questions in Fi matters, stating any perception of mine ends up in that sort of problem :-/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    I think this is a fantastic illustration of weak Fi.

    Last night I went to a club and later on in the night I observed this group of males and females (people watching in clubs is great fun), and one duo I took notice of. After about five or ten minutes of dancing, I said to her "you're not really that interested in him, are you?" which she didn't hear, so I said it again, and she didn't hear, so I said it a third time, and she looked at me for a few seconds and then said "he's my boyfriend".

    I don't know why I even bothered talking to her - I mean, she wasn't hot at all, so it's not like I wanted her. I think I was just looking to stir up some shit and create some drama, but it only ended in (slight) embarrassment on my part.
    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Why "embarrassment"? If anything, it shows that you were probably right and that social conformities are more important than genuine feelings. But then, I'd probably feel the same in your situation.
    I dont think that that was an embarrassment, but... I am not an SLE, so i am not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    I think this is a fantastic illustration of weak Fi.

    Last night I went to a club and later on in the night I observed this group of males and females (people watching in clubs is great fun), and one duo I took notice of. After about five or ten minutes of dancing, I said to her "you're not really that interested in him, are you?" which she didn't hear, so I said it again, and she didn't hear, so I said it a third time, and she looked at me for a few seconds and then said "he's my boyfriend".
    The fact that you said it 3 times is kinda funny...lol.
    IMO, Perhaps she was ignoring you because she knew you were totally off with what you were saying. She may have thought it would be easier to just not acknowledge you but you kept at it, which may have got on her nerves enough to finally cause the reaction it did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    I don't know why I even bothered talking to her - I mean, she wasn't hot at all, so it's not like I wanted her. I think I was just looking to stir up some shit and create some drama, but it only ended in (slight) embarrassment on my part.
    The first part in italics is an excuse you're making, when in reality she called you on beind a dumbass and maybe didn't even think much of you. Whatever you have to tell yourself...lol.

    The bolded part, I just can't fathom at all and, as usual, just causes me to think that you're just as much of a tool as I used to think in the past regarding other situations I've seen from you. I guess I'm just not used to people who actually like to "stir up some shit and create some drama." It really does baffle me.

    Then again, you could very well have been correct in your assumption and she just didn't want to fuck things up with the guy she doesn't really care about and just went on the defensive because she's supposed to.

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    most likely you were "right"...but she assumed that you were interested in her and she wasnt in you, which is why she said hes my bf. most likely the guy in question was a gay male friend, a male friend, or her brother. if she was interested in you she would have said "i don't know him" and most likely started flirting/smiling at you. truth hurts sorry, but in order understand dating you need to understand what a woman means when she says certain things. ull pick up in it in time dont worry

    in addition, u stating that observation showed insecurity on your part to whether you were socially valuable enough for her/attractive.

    neway, now you know that when u are in the presence of a female dont talk about other guys or show any formof insecurity. just be yourself and dont act weird
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    I'm not sure I completely understand. What was so horrific about it?

    Did you sincerely think/guess that she wasn't really interested in him? If so, you very well could have been correct, and she replied thus for entirely different reasons than conveying to you the true nature of their relationship.


    Also... hm... do you normally have a habit of guessing at how close or interested in each other people are? As in, is that something that you find yourself thinking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    I'm not sure I completely understand. What was so horrific about it?

    Did you sincerely think/guess that she wasn't really interested in him? If so, you very well could have been correct, and she replied thus for entirely different reasons than conveying to you the true nature of their relationship.


    Also... hm... do you normally have a habit of guessing at how close or interested in each other people are? As in, is that something that you find yourself thinking about?
    he was most likely trying to gauge the girls attraction to the other guy to see if she was "approachable" in that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Also... hm... do you normally have a habit of guessing at how close or interested in each other people are? As in, is that something that you find yourself thinking about?
    That sounds like something I do. Sounds like Fi HA to me actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    The fact that you said it 3 times is kinda funny...lol.
    IMO, Perhaps she was ignoring you because she knew you were totally off with what you were saying. She may have thought it would be easier to just not acknowledge you but you kept at it, which may have got on her nerves enough to finally cause the reaction it did.
    That could actualy be true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    I think this is a fantastic illustration of weak Fi.

    Last night I went to a club and later on in the night I observed this group of males and females (people watching in clubs is great fun), and one duo I took notice of. After about five or ten minutes of dancing, I said to her "you're not really that interested in him, are you?" which she didn't hear, so I said it again, and she didn't hear, so I said it a third time, and she looked at me for a few seconds and then said "he's my boyfriend".
    Take the note of the fact she looked at you for a few seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    I think this is a fantastic illustration of weak Fi.

    Last night I went to a club and later on in the night I observed this group of males and females (people watching in clubs is great fun), and one duo I took notice of. After about five or ten minutes of dancing, I said to her "you're not really that interested in him, are you?" which she didn't hear, so I said it again, and she didn't hear, so I said it a third time, and she looked at me for a few seconds and then said "he's my boyfriend".

    I don't know why I even bothered talking to her - I mean, she wasn't hot at all, so it's not like I wanted her. I think I was just looking to stir up some shit and create some drama, but it only ended in (slight) embarrassment on my part.
    Most ESTPs i can think of dont act that way. They are usually in tune with their Ni (gut feeling) of a standard situation such as that at a club. I can only think of one ESTp i knew, who for religious reasons, acted differently than the norm.

    They are usually smooth and dont really care but just rub off on it and move on. That is the secondary world of their Fe + Ni.

    The fact that you had to repeat yourself 3 times before catching on isnt very ESTp like.

    (i'm just tryin to stir some shit up, lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    I think this is a fantastic illustration of weak Fi.

    Last night I went to a club and later on in the night I observed this group of males and females (people watching in clubs is great fun), and one duo I took notice of. After about five or ten minutes of dancing, I said to her "you're not really that interested in him, are you?" which she didn't hear, so I said it again, and she didn't hear, so I said it a third time, and she looked at me for a few seconds and then said "he's my boyfriend".

    I don't know why I even bothered talking to her - I mean, she wasn't hot at all, so it's not like I wanted her. I think I was just looking to stir up some shit and create some drama, but it only ended in (slight) embarrassment on my part.
    It is called being a jealous dick making dick moves, and your motive was to devalue the guy obviously ... it has to do with men being jealous of other men and has nothing to do with functions. It was just simply a bad move some men tend to make.

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    If that were me, I'd probably be impressed at your astute observations and insights. Like most overly introverted, psychologist liberal do-gooders that wants to make the world a better place, I'd rather have people be with people they genuinely want to.

    Although this is probably too idealistic or something. I dunno.

    A little fakery, a little charm, a little style is necessary to win hearts sometimes though. I'm just afraid of being an image, an illusion. I understand there's probably a way to say things more tactfully that doesn't come across as ass-y or socially inappropriate, but are also totally true (which a lot of psychologist types are hella guilty of.)

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