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    Default First ever structured exposition of Metasocionics [alchemical socionics]

    What you see below is basically the first exposition of the alchemical socionics theory, which is for metasocionics and metaphysical applications. It is to be differentiated from the socionics most people have studied in the following ways:

    1.) Alchemical socionics is from a monist standpoint, not a dualistic one.

    2.) Alchemical socionics applies socionics further than just relationships between two or more people and into a holistic frame encompassing everything.

    3.) Alchemical socionics gives regular socionics a structure by which can strengthen the claims of current socionics research.

    4.) Alchemical socionics has the intention of allowing people to make better and more coherent decisions in typing individuals, or other things.

    5.) Alchemical socionics has given way to the creation of the metasocion[ the socion applied to a 360 degree circle], with seven natural laws.

    6.) Alchemical socionics can provide structure to understanding extremely refined details in the formulation of type relationships.

    7.) Alchemical socionics is about as close to alchemy as is possible without being based upon it, rather alchemy has been adapted to a socionics basis.

    With the above, the creation of the metasocion has occured. As is shown below:



    The following is an exposition of metasocionics and what it can offer.

    Alchemical laws that can be applied to a 360 degree circle:


    [1]Principle of Mentalism: infinite and finite working of the socion.

    [2]Principle of Correspondance: the chaining of functions into hierachies, above and below

    [3]Principle of Cause and Effect: the cause[function 1] and the cause[function 2] meeting to create an observable effection[resolution]]\

    [4]Principle of Rhythm: The swing of functions in the socion [360 degree circle]

    [5]Principle of Polarity: The distance in polarity between functions in the socion [360 degree circle]

    [6]Principle of Gender: Basically just Extroversion and Introversion, or Male and Female.

    [7]Principle of Vibration: Categorically where functions are at in the spectrum of both polarity and correspondance, as compared to other functions.

    Some of these are still probable divisions being formulated.
    The ones that are listed are already being worked upon.


    A probable division [division by 2]
    A probable division [division by 3]

    Quadras of the Socion [division by 4]
    These would be the same socionic descriptions as found from everywhere else.
    Quadra[1]: Alpha
    Quadra[2]: Beta
    Quadra[3]: Gamma
    Quadra[4]: Delta

    A probable division [division by 6]

    Secondary refined information elements [division by 8 and 16(chained)]
    These would be the same socionic descriptions as found from everywhere else.
    : - same description found everywhere else
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    Primary raw source information elements [division by 12]
    These would be the same socionic descriptions as found from everywhere else.
    Quadruplicity: [1]Cardinal, [2]Ordinal, [3]Mutable
    : As [1] Extroversion, [2] Introversion, [3] Senseing
    : As [1] Extroversion, [2] Introversion, [3] Thinking
    : As [1] Extroversion, [2] Introversion, [3] Intuition
    : As [1] Extroversion, [2] Introversion, [3] Feeling

    The 16 types [division by 16]
    These would be the same socionic descriptions as found from everywhere else.
    [01]ESFj - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [02]ENTp - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [03]INTj - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [04]ISFp - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [05]ESTp - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [06]INFp - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [07]ENFj - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [08]ISTj - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [09]ENTj - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [10]ESFp - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [11]ISFj - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [12]INTp - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [13]ENFp - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [14]ESTj - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [15]ISTp - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics
    [16]INFj - same type descriptions as found everywhere else for socionics

    A probable division [division by 24]


    Tritary information elements [division by 36 - 360 degree circle]
    These are gradient descriptions which can refer to more than one type in close proxmity.
    Consult the color wheel below and you should see what this means.



    These descriptions have not been written entirely yet, but will resemble something close
    to the 36 strategems from china.

    These would be special descriptions that so far no one has written for socionics.

    NOTE: The above and below is not intended to ever be absolute or resolute, but variable so someone can use some descriptors to determine where someone or something is in the general Vincenty of the socion.

    01. INFj/ESFj - tritary description 1 - blue
    02. INFj/ESFj - tritary description 2 - blue
    03. INFj/ESFj - tritary description 3 - blue
    04. ENTp - tritary description 1 - blue
    05. ENTp - tritary description 2 - blue
    06. ENTp - tritary description 3 - blue
    07. INTj - tritary description 1 - blue
    08. INTj - tritary description 2 - blue
    09. INTj - tritary description 3 - blue
    10. ISFp/ESTp - tritary description 1 - green
    11. ISFp/ESTp - tritary description 2 - green
    12. ISFp/ESTp - tritary description 3 - green
    13. ENFj - tritary description 1 - yellow
    14. ENFj - tritary description 2 - yellow
    15. ENFj - tritary description 3 - yellow
    16. INFp - tritary description 1 - yellow
    17. INFp - tritary description 2 - orange
    18. INFp - tritary description 3 - orange
    19. ISTj/ENTj - tritary description 1 - orange
    20. ISTj/ENTj - tritary description 2 - orange
    21. ISTj/ENTj - tritary description 3 - orange
    22. ESFp - tritary description 1 - orange
    23. ESFp - tritary description 2 - orange
    24. ESFp - tritary description 3 - orange
    25. ISFj - tritary description 1 - pink
    26. ISFj - tritary description 2 - pink
    27. ISFj - tritary description 3 - pink
    28. INTp/ENFp - tritary description 1 - purple
    29. INTp/ENFp - tritary description 2 - purple
    30. INTp/ENFp - tritary description 3 - purple
    31. ESTj - tritary description 1 - blue
    32. ESTj - tritary description 2 - blue
    33. ESTj - tritary description 3 - blue
    34. ISTp - tritary description 1 - blue
    35. ISTp - tritary description 2 - blue
    36. ISTp - tritary description 3 - blue

    EDIT: I just got done writting up the 36 descriptions:

    01. May want to do or say something before another will as an attempt to lead and make the other follow.
    02. May present themselves and others with two ways to get to only one real destination.
    03. May isolate those around close for the sake of those distant.
    04. May make assumptions about behavior and shake someone up just to see how they react.
    05. May stay comfortably still yet attempt to move someone stronger into a lower position.
    06. May throw out something small as an attempt to receive, hint at something greater.
    07. May make suggestions by useing one thing to represent another.
    08. May make assumptive impressions that things are a certain case and seek to solidify the notion.
    09. May be cordial as an attempt to impress someone, but in a way that catches them off guard.
    10. May equalize loss by taking something of value away from that which causes loss.
    11. May attempt to stay comfortably still in one place and let others do exhausting work, seemingly lazy.
    12. May present themselves and others with two alternate destinations where only one is actual destination.
    13. May motivate someone to do something or go somewhere by restateing a demotivator in warmer terms
    14. May use the motivation of one person to motivate more people for a cause.
    15. May judge worth, throws out junk and moves usable things from a minor place to a place of major importance.
    16. May mentally test people just to see where they stand and whether their position can be collapsed or not.
    17. May cause other people to underestimate self, then slowly adds value by acting as a reformed saint.
    18. May take something of little value, add value to it and pitch it as sometyhing more valuable.
    19. May take something very old, worn out and reinterpret it; makeing it more modern and stylish.
    20. May allow someone their space as an attempt to guide them into a certain position.
    21. May emphasize strengths or make strategic popshots at a leader's weaknesses in order to turn against.
    22. May take things in and out of their natural elements in order to create a known atmosphere.
    23. May make suggestions to lure someone or something into a certain position in order to lock them there.
    24. May borrow the help of others without their knowledge and then throw them away when mission is complete.
    25. May disguise something bad as something good in order to convey a disarming message.
    26. May use jealousy or and other feelings to divide and as a means to control a situation.
    27. May have an obsession with wondering about probable senerios"what if such and such happened ... what then?"
    28. May have nothing and use the slightest hint of ommision to grab a means to start something.
    29. May have a habit of waiting until the very last moment to continue on with what others have started.
    30. May choose to keep one thing over another when keeping both reduces the overall quality of something.
    31. May appear to be headed somewhere with something when the actual direction is somewhere else.
    32. May seem to act very cordial regardless of events even to those who are not on the best of terms with.
    33. May take the oppotunity to grab the smallest bit of value from someone or something and run with it.
    34. May be such an open and sincere person that it scares other people that someone can be that open.
    35. May attempt to make people think is worse off then he or she is and use that to his or hers advantage.
    36. May intentionally fail a few times as a means to get a feel of something and the right course of direction.
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    Eventually there will be type and relationship descriptions with descriptors on how metasocionics is applied with socionics, stay tuned. I am pretty sure that the first one will be a 'relationship of benefit' with metasocionic descriptors demonstrating how the whole relationship works. Stay tuned for that one.
    Last edited by Angel von Himmel; 02-21-2009 at 07:55 AM.

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    What a pointless waste of fucking time. I want to piss in the OP's mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeAnte View Post
    What a pointless waste of fucking time. I want to piss in the OP's mouth.
    I hope the administrators and moderators now do not tolerate these sort of postings, cause I sure did not when I was an administrator.

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    This is not metaphysics. Metaphysics does not hold monism as an axiom. Nor is this a level abstracted from Socionics; it is merely an extension of Socionics. Therefore, I don't think that you should use the prefix "meta."

    Wikisocion has a better definition of "metasocionics"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    I don't think that you should use the prefix "meta."
    Wikisocion has a better definition of "metasocionics"
    When did that get added in? No biggie I just call this something else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    This is not metaphysics. Metaphysics does not hold monism as an axiom.
    I do not ever think I implied that metaphysics ever used monism as an axiom. I do think I implied that a monist understanding comes from adding the 360 degree circle, where before most people just understood socionics as a dualists "Good versus Bad" slash "hey this type I am has conflicting types and friendly dual types" way of describing thing. Although, some of that is still there and obviously would not go away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    Nor is this a level abstracted from Socionics; it is merely an extension of Socionics.
    Yeah ... I see no reason for a therefore here on account that it is an extension of socionics; because the whole thing is an extension of socionics. What else can a person say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel von Himmel View Post
    I hope the administrators and moderators now do not tolerate these sort of postings, cause I sure did not when I was an administrator.
    Yeah like when you pissed off for 6 months and hell was breaking loose here, like you posting disgusting images of dead cats all over the forum, and pm'ing videos of such things to forum users, like you deleting two weeks worth of posting. Like you spending the best part of the last two months telling people here how they are idiots with no life. Sure *****. You were such a good administrator, and your actions have all been above reproach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeAnte View Post
    What a pointless waste of fucking time. I want to piss in the OP's mouth.
    While I don't see anything wrong with the "pointless waste of fucking time" comment, the pissing part is a bit over the top. Please try to keep it somewhat civil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tereg View Post
    While I don't see anything wrong with the "pointless waste of fucking time" comment, the pissing part is a bit over the top. Please try to keep it somewhat civil.
    Sure thing, tereg.

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