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    This is my sister, she's a high school junior.

    I believe she is Fi ENFp. She's Ne/Si no questions asked and definitely not "rational".
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    She's pretty.

    The third pic reminded me of EII somewhat but I don't think she is. Fp makes a lot of sense.

    You're sure ENFp>INFp? If you are, then I can see ENFp. The second picture looks somewhat beta NF, but it might be because it was a group shot/fun shot. Generally, ENFp looks alright, as far as appearance.
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    Maybe Fe-INFp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    Maybe Fe-INFp.
    agree

    anyway, she's really cute.
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    I know an ENFp-Fi who V.I.s just like her, except for she's 20. and this girl is really hot. Anyway, your sister is no doubt ENFp-Fi

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    I say Ep over Ip and shes into fashion, aesthetics, art, knitting, photography

    so I see a Si agenda. I can not see her seeking Se in anyway.
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    Congratulations. Your sister is your dual.
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    ...you are terrible at this.

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    I would have guessed INFp > ENFj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Congratulations. Your sister is your dual.
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    I say Ep over Ip and shes into fashion, aesthetics, art, knitting, photography

    so I see a Si agenda. I can not see her seeking Se in anyway.
    I really don't see delta in her demeanor at all. Fe-INFps often times come across as EP because of the high Se focus. I also speculated on her being some 3/4 enneagram variant. And come on lol, being into aesthetic things doesn't imply Si agenda; it could just as easily betray a high Se focus, in a different manner. And lastly, the term "x function-seeking" is misleading because it implies some search for an integral part we are somehow missing but need for completion. I'm not disputing the fact that one function is obviously more conducive to our psychic health than others, in interaction; but that label will skew interpretations. And if she was Fe-INFp, it wouldn't be Se-seeking anyway, whatever that even means to you. So, I see no reason to abandon my initial claim as of now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    I really don't see delta in her demeanor at all.
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    And come on lol, being into aesthetic things doesn't imply Si agenda; it could just as easily betray a high Se focus, in a different manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    I really don't see delta in her demeanor at all. Fe-INFps often times come across as EP because of the high Se focus. I also speculated on her being some 3/4 enneagram variant. And come on lol, being into aesthetic things doesn't imply Si agenda; it could just as easily betray a high Se focus, in a different manner. And lastly, the term "x function-seeking" is misleading because it implies some search for an integral part we are somehow missing but need for completion. I'm not disputing the fact that one function is obviously more conducive to our psychic health than others, in interaction; but that label will skew interpretations. And if she was Fe-INFp, it wouldn't be Se-seeking anyway, whatever that even means to you. So, I see no reason to abandon my initial claim as of now.
    Good post. Maybe this V.I. thing does have some worth after all, b/c my initial impression before anything was IEI-Fe of some sort. I can spot them a mile away, there is something very familiar to me in her demeanor & aura. She looks really Fe creative to me.

    And to the bolded part: Really? That would explain a lot of things.


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    I don't see IEE or delta, really, at all.
    I know a few female IEEs who can be posers in pics, but it always looks not entirely serious.
    I dunno. I think your sis poses in a much more believable way in those pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Good post. Maybe this V.I. thing does have some worth after all, b/c my initial impression before anything was IEI-Fe of some sort. I can spot them a mile away, there is something very familiar to me in her demeanor & aura. She looks really Fe creative to me.

    And to the bolded part: Really? That would explain a lot of things.
    Yeah, forreal. Fe-IxFps more often than not get mistyped as ExFps (note even the presence of this phenomenon in the community with members such as juju and mimosa). Fe-INFps have a certain directness to their demeanor, and are more often than not 3/4 enneagram variants, rendering their personality "extroverted" in the common sense of the word. Fe-ISFps are even more stereotypically extroverted, due to the high Ne focus, which is more bubbly than Se, obviously (they also tend to be 4/3). Couple this with a dynamic temperament, albeit with a slight bent towards an object-oriented perception, and you will have someone seemingly too externally aware -- or "jumpy" -- to be of the IP temperament. Yet, the core remains!
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    have her take the test and read the descriptions of infp vs. enfp

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    i used rational to sum up the general methodical-ness and stableness of the dynamic object and static field elements. Also she is f'ing irrational in the common sense.

    She does not have an external element for her mode. Her main way of seeing things is anything but external (concrete, physical, clear, measurable)

    I showed her Ashton's VI gallery (because I trust it more than the others). She related to The Delta's far more than the Beta's. There were far more people in Delta that she admires than Beta. However, Im still out on her type.


    Im actually favoring Fe ISFp (Fe mode, Ne agenda) over Fe INFp.

    Her style reminds me more of Alpha than Beta.

    So in no particular order: Fi ENFp, Fe ISFp, and Fe INFp.

    I'll try asking her about the elements, re-give her some tests, and maybe do a vid.

    She is interested in socionics btw, but isn't much of an forum rat.
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    yet more evidence which suggests ENFp-Fi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    gotcha! you used "rational"
    she looks sensing, ESFJ imo. in the 3rd pic looks ISFJ and in the second like ISTP or something. why don't you convince her to make a test?
    Such erratic differentiations betray nothing more than cursory glances. Don't make claims if you don't understand what you're looking at.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    I showed her Ashton's VI gallery (because I trust it more than the others). She related to The Delta's far more than the Beta's. There were far more people in Delta that she admires than Beta. However, Im still out on her type.
    That proves nothing. She doesn't know anything about socionics, and most likely liked certain deltas because of the female celebrities there or something. -If- by the off chance she happened to identify with them based on traits intrinsic to deltas, this would be relevant. Otherwise, no.

    Im actually favoring Fe ISFp (Fe mode, Ne agenda) over Fe INFp.

    Her style reminds me more of Alpha than Beta.

    So in no particular order: Fi ENFp, Fe ISFp, and Fe INFp.

    I'll try asking her about the elements, re-give her some tests, and maybe do a vid.

    She is interested in socionics btw, but isn't much of an forum rat.
    Tests suck, descriptions are misleading, and most sites give bogus info. Just talk to her about it, post some pics or vids, get a decent read, and go from there.


    I still think Fe-INFp.
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