ENFps Fe

[ArchonAlarion]

well how does implict/explicit deal with "cause"?

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Creepy-male]

I could accomplish both of those things without using Fe. Couldn't you?

I mean, 12 year olds in Drama Club wouldn't need Fe. They'd probably need some Te actually, to get the play moving, or some Ne to see the big picture of what is to be accomplished in the play. Acting and plays aren't about Fe.

Actually, drama exercises. "Fractured Fairytales". Put a strange twist on a well-known fairytale and add a musical number to it.

Just going by the group behaviour with scriptwork earlier, the "k. stfu. you do this." approach being used by my co-in-charge-y-guy really wasn't working. The other kids kept wanting to put their insight in, and that kept getting thrown out, so they'd sort of tune out and stare off into the middle-distance.

I really have no idea whether my approach was actually better (actually, I think we got less done than the other group), but I wound up just mixing everyone's input together and nudging it back on course "YES!! Great idea! But what now? Ok, she's been shot in the tower after singing Ice Ice Baby, and--"

And the thing is, I would never set out to "cheer someone up." Instead I'd set out to let them know 1) How much I care value them (focusing on our Fi bond here), 2) I'd show that by letting them talk to me in a non-rushed/non-judgemental place so they can vent 3) remind them of other information in the situation they are leaving out -- kinds just make sure the whole picture is on the table 4) go deeper into what is bother them so they can figure it out with the best solution (not slapping on a "cheer up!!! " Fe type thing. 5) Ask if there is a different way (that they want) to see things (Ne).

That's what I call "cheering someone up". Except for #5, which I hadn't considered. Thanks!

5) Ask if there is a different way (that they want) to see things (Ne).

While I could comprehend what you're trying to do, I hate when things feel forced like that. I'd much rather something happen naturally and if I had to have someone to 'force' me to talk to someone at all, it's probobly not someone i'd naturally want to speak with anyway. I'd kinda take offense to that, actually...like..I can't do it myself?

This and this. Duly noted

Delta Te/Si, I love it.

"Stock aphorisms" probably has nothing to do with Fi.

You're right! That was sarcasm.

[kensi]

Ok, so I am ENFp. I am hundred percent sure I'm Ne/Si. But when I read the functions descriptions I'd say I use Fe more than Fi. I just don't think I value Fi that much, it seems a bit boring to me. I like creating atmosphere, enhancing other people's mood rather than judging what's right and wrong.
Or maybe I just don't understand the meaning of the functions. The ENFp description fits me best but is it possible that at some point of life I just learned to value Fe too much?
Have others ENFps experienced similar thing? Or maybe you understand nothing from this post

welcome to my world -this pretty much sums up my dilemna. From what i've seen....it may be possible for you to be ENFp and use Fe.... but you should try to consider all traditional models before exploring alternative theories. good luck.

[pluie]

I don't relate to this at all...

Fi is not boring to me. It's how I think, and I find it fun, or at least satisfying. This weekend I sat around w/ another ENFp and an ISFj and we discussed Fi-related stuff for about 8 hours and all had a blast. I do judge ethical behavior and it does piss me off when people are not doing the "right" thing towards each other or me.

I don't like Fe because I don't like to influence how people feel. It feels to me like controlling them, and because I don't like to be controlled, I prefer to leave things more neutral. I want people to create their own emotions within themselves and then share them w/ me, not me create their emotions for them.

I don't want to put pressure on them in the emotional atmosphere way because it makes it like the other person doesn't have a choice in how they react. That's not to say I'm not persuasive in other ways, but I really don't like to.

Forgetmenot, there is something about your posts that seems like Fe to me.

ahhh. seems to me Fe and Fi are among the more difficult of functions to distinguish. because of this i am quite unsure if i am ENFj or ENFp. or even INFp with extreme Fe subtype haha.

anyway, jewels, i relate completely to what you just said. but mainly with people who i am not in a very deep relationship with? i keep the atmosphere neutral when good friends who i don't mind if things aren't completely real and genuine with.

perhaps my intentions are different, at the core.