My ESE friend throws stuff out immediately after it expires. I'm like "WTF are you doing?! Give it to me. I'll eat it."
It's a rule of thumb, not a rule.
Anyone act like the ESE? This is completely bizarre to me.
My ESE friend throws stuff out immediately after it expires. I'm like "WTF are you doing?! Give it to me. I'll eat it."
It's a rule of thumb, not a rule.
Anyone act like the ESE? This is completely bizarre to me.
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
I feel like this is so Ti-valuing. The manufacturers just put the expiry on things so that they can't be held liable if it's bad past that date. It doesn't mean it actually is bad.
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
After a few bad experiences, I just can't do it. I have to throw anything out that is use by "today's date" or later. Absolutely HAVE to throw it out. The other thing is if it is a consumable that lasts a long time (like powdered milk or something) and it's been sitting there ages and is use-by in a week or so, I'd probably throw that out too. Or anything like that that might be well within use by but has been open for more than about three months. Out it goes. Same with any jams or etc. I find open in the pantry, and not in the fridge where they belong (ugh!)....
I just...can't stand the idea of serving someone bad food. Bad enough if I eat it, but I would be mortified if I made someone else sick. But I am seriously the world's most anal-retentive cook. Every surface I'm working with has to be spotless before I even start cooking or I end up getting a bit of a complex.....ask Errant, he's seen me cook. It took me 45 minutes to clean the kitchen to an acceptable level once when he was over, lol!
The other thing is that if I'm cleaning surfaces I go over them again with hot water after I've sprayed them, in case I need to use a surface and any food "happens" to get on the bench (think kneading or something, but I use a chopping board on top of that)... I don't want anything spoiling my intentions with the flavours and emotions evoked when it comes to cooking. It has to be perfect.
...I think this has to do with the fact that not all germs are going to be visible- I did a lot of advanced biology and etc back in school and I'm well aware that levels of bacteria in certain things can be high enough to harm you without being visible. I don't like the idea of that spoiling the experience of my cooking.
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yes, you don't risk expiry dates. Never.
D-SEI 9w1
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i ditch it
It's bizarre to me too [and my ESE aunt does the same thing]. It isn't too often that food is left over after the expiration date, but if it is and it looks and smells okay, I'll taste it... if it tastes okay, it's as good as eaten in full. I've never had any problems with this method.
One reason I don't worry about it is that I suspect companies bump the exp. date up at least a couple of days because if people throw the product out on the expiration date, they'll surely rush right out to buy replacements.
lol My ESE husband and my IEI friend both throw things out right on the date. I, however, am willing to take a few more risks. NOT with meat. But cottage cheese, yogurt, cheese, milk (unless it smells), stuff like that I hold onto. I read an article once that said that packaged lunchmeats are good for WAY longer than the date stamped on them because they're washed in this high-power machine or something. Anyway, the food companies don't feel like they can make the dates any longer or else people wouldn't believe them. I know it sounds odd. I read that somewhere.
IEI-Fe 4w3
I never look at expiration dates. So long as it doesn't stink or have mold, I eat it.
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I test it if it's expired, but I tend to toss it altogether if it's a week or so over (for things like milk, but that's an easy one to test). I actually reflected over eating some eggs that expired back last september, but I'll need to give them the floater test before I take that leap. Things that keep forever anyway, like canned foods, I don't feel bad about eating expired at all, unless I open them up and decide otherwise.
Overall though, I don't mind germs much, I figure over the years they've just refined my antibodies into well oiled killing machines.
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I've found that the "bad dates" and the appearance of the food match up. Any time I've wanted to get an extra day out of something, it already has that ominous look of "I'm so about to be bad!" You know, like maybe extra condensation in a package, or salad that is just a little too wrinkly around the edges, etc., and so stuff is probably growing already. It is a bad way to try to save money because if it makes you sick then you waste days of work and money for the dr.
I'd rather take my risks in other, more fun ways.
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This is the exact opposite thing that happens with my sister (ESE) and me. She gets really pissed if I just throw stuff out because she thinks it's wasting or something.. but I am totally freaked out about eating old food. Also, if I eat something and then find out later that it has passed the expiry date I will start to feel ill, basically make up in my head that I am sick even if I was feeling fine.
EII 4w5
so/sx (?)
I won't touch anything expired when it comes to food, milk I won't drink if it's even close to it, like within 3 days...lol. I trick myself that it's bad and will kill me if I eat stuff past it's due date. Much like Christy mentioned, if I eat something and find out it's past due I may even feel ill, probably a true placebo effect... but it happens nonetheless.
my ENFj mother eats expired food, and it is absolutely disgusting. one day i actually reminded her that we are not in the "end of days" as she tends to refer to, and that eating bread that is about to go moldy is gross. but she'll totally eat things that really are about 5 minutes from growing massive spore colonies.
on the other hand if something still looked/smelled good and was a day past expiration, i doubt i'd care much.
re: antibodies - probably a good thing.
6w5 sx
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sloan - rcuei
Over the years, I have toughened my stomach as well as testing out different dates. I tend to trust the dates printed as I've physically observed that eating things past their due date the sheer majority of the time has a negative effect, and I can withstand all kinds of (fresh) junk.
The worst case was probably when I drank a pepsi out of the fridge of this one ILE. It was literally almost a decade past its expiration date. If you ever plan on drinking expired coke, do not!!!
Honestly, I do not get people who knowingly keep expired food. I find non-degrading foods very strange and unnatural, something perhaps inspired by my valuing family.
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I generally plan ahead, and eat everything before the expiration date, and I don't buy excess food.
If there's lot of food, usually when my mom has given me, I just eat them in the order of expiration dates. So they won't expire.
But if all these measures have failed for some reason. I usually have thrown them away. I might nuke them twice as long, if it's only one day old.
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...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
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...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
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...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
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Depends on what type of food it is. I don't care about expired sugar, salt, or even bread (even though usually bread isn't very tasty), or canned drinks or cereals. However, of course, I don't eat expired fish, meat, or anything that must be eaten relatively fresh.
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I test food if it has gone over the expiration date. Most food that I buy is fresh vegetation, so I can tell by looking, smelling, tasting, whatever. The date is just an abstraction on a label. Sometimes it's right, sometimes wrong. Occasionally, food will go bad /before/ the expiration date.
I've eaten questionably-fresh meat before and I didn't get sick.
LOL! Everything gets eaten pretty quickly around here also. And my mother-in-law always has REALLY OLD canned stuff at her house that I feel needs to be thrown away.
lol @ cracka! I have to say, my husband is definitely more concerned with expiration dates than I am. He's always saying "is this good?" "how long has this been in here?" "am I the only one who throws away food in this family?" hahaha
IEI-Fe 4w3
This.
I have a lot less to worry about because I don't eat meat or eggs or drink milk. I do eat cheese, but I can't stand bleu, gorgonzola, etc - they taste like mold and nothing else to me.
I am extremely sensitive to mold - I can smell it way before most other people. We had to stop using a sponge because I could smell when it got moldy sometimes from two rooms away, and my SO couldn't smell it even when he was using it! (Now we use a dishrag & wash it often - I would wash the sponge and it would STILL smell moldy.) So I guess I have a high level of confidence in giving stuff the sniff-test, too.
I'm also very picky about texture, so I have standards for my fresh food. For example, if an apple has bad spots that doesn't make the entire apple bad, but I definitely have to cut the spots off because they're mushy, and the mouth-feel is utterly repellent. And celery that goes limp may taste the same but I can't fucking chew it ... I can forgive some off flavors, such as parsley that's gone bitter, as long as the texture doesn't go against my expectations.
I recently finished off a loaf of bread that was weeks past its expired date. I kept giving it the sniff test and it wasn't moldy, so I used it for some damn tasty sammiches. But it makes me think the bread probably wasn't very nutritious - if the microbes don't think it's food, my body probably can't get much out of it, either.
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Ugh. Moldy sponges are the worst ever. And you're right, even if you boil them, wash them, whatever, you won't get rid of the mildew smell.
I had a loaf of bread that I left on top of my fridge for 6 months. It was for a recipe - it's not a type that I like for sandwiches. After 3 months, I remembered it and saw there wasn't a spot of mold on it. Then it became an experiment to see how long it could go with no mold on it. After 6 months there STILL wasn't a spot on there. This was even in the spring/summer months when everything in Atlanta molds in a week because of the humidity. I don't know what they put in the bread, but I decided to get my bread from a real bakery. (ie - whole grains, no preservatives) I don't like the thought of eating so many weird chemicals and preservatives that a loaf of bread will last over six months.
I will eat some things past the expiration date, but I hate anything with a stale texture. I will trim mold off of a block of cheese if it's a small spot and I intend to use it just one more time. Most things, though, like bottled condiments and stuff, I use so rarely that often it will be a year past the date before I realize that I bought it and only used it a couple times. Those get tossed! Overall I just go by smell and appearance.
IEE