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    Let's call them Allen and Betty.

    Allen and Betty are in the supermarket. At the register, Betty tells Allen "I couldn't find the walnuts." Allen says "hold on. I'll go and check for them."

    Allen goes to look for the walnuts. After 5 minutes he returns because he sees Betty motioning that she has been checked out already. When Allen meets Betty, she immediately says "You're ridiculous. I held up the whole line because of you. It was insensitive to the other people in line."

    Ensuing convo....

    Allen: What are you talking about? Why would you do that?

    Betty: Because you didn't come back. I assumed you were getting them.

    Allen: What? I was trying to get them.

    Betty: Okay, calm down. This was a miscommunication on both of our parts. I assumed you would come back and tell me the status, so I held up the line, waiting for you to come back.

    Allen: No. I figured you would check out normally. If I happened to have found the walnuts while you were still in line, we would get them, and if I didn't come back in time (or came back empty-handed), then we wouldn't.

    Betty: I assumed you would come back to tell me the status. Besides. Didn't you realize that 5 minutes had passed? How long do you think it would take to check me out?!

    Allen: I figured you were probably done. I tried to tell the staff to stop looking, but they kept talking to me and I felt bad telling them to shut up because it was futile at that point. Anyway, your assumptions make no sense. Why would I come back to tell you the status? That just wastes time and confuses the staff who is trying to find me.

    Betty: Umm no. You say to people "Bye. I have to go."

    Allen: I was trying to. Anyway, you're failing to think about each of the possibilities: 1. the walnuts were there (in which case I would have just come back with the bag), 2. they weren't there (in which case I could be in the process of asking the staff if they could locate them in the back for me, which is exactly what happened). It's not just "there" or "not there." It's more like "there" or "possibly there," which is why my "if I happen to come back with them in time" makes the most obvious sense.

    Betty: Not obvious. The cashiers were waiting for you as well. Everyone thought you would come back with an update.

    Allen: So now we're going by assumptions of the general populus? Geez. Sorry, I don't do THAT.

    Betty: Snot.

    Allen: You know I'm only half serious.

    Betty: Why are you getting so enraged over this?

    Allen: You called me "ridiculous." It's fine when it's about stuff that is ACTUALLY true, but I make perfect sense here and you're the one with the absurd system.

    Betty: Whatever. I don't know why this bothers you that much.

    blah blah. Allen and Betty hug and make up.
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    Not sure on the type aspect, but it's dumb to think he would come back with a "status update." And even if she did think that, after about 2 minutes she probably should have just checked out, to keep the line moving; it's just walnuts, lol. And people in the line just stood there? Heh, that's bullshit. If someone was holding me up so that their friend could go get some walnuts, I'd be pissed as shit. So, maybe he should have alerted her beforehand that he was going to try to find them, and that she should just check out. I hate accommodating for peoples' incompetencies and mistakes; if you forgot walnuts, oh well, but don't burden me. So, I have no clue what the fuck Betty was thinking; Allen was right, albeit not explicit enough to make it clear what Betty needed to do.
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    And they shouldn't need an update to proceed with checking out; christ, are people that dumb? Let's just sit idly until we get an update on his walnut pursuit, so that we can feel good moving on with the line. Yeah, that makes SO much sense. If he takes too long, you assume he's still looking, or just fucking around, and you keep the line moving because the world doesn't revolve around you and your goddamn walnuts. So, someone should have spoken up, and Betty shouldn't have been so languid about the whole thing. It's pretty simple deductive logic; nothing to do with being sensitive to the people or cashier.
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    My response: We forgot to get walnuts? Oh well, fuck it.

    And I'd be somewhat amused over the little spat if I saw it happening. What won't people argue over these days?
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    Betty fails at life. I've been in the exact situation. My friend forgot something and left me with his stuff in line while he went to go grab what he forgot. I just kept letting people one by one jump ahead of me until he got back. So I didn't really lose my place in line nor did I hold up people.
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    That was a hilarious argument. I forgot something last time I was at the store, so I left my bag at the front, went back to get it, and suddenly there were 10 people in line all with carts piled full like they were stockpiling before the zombie revolution. grrrr..

    That being said, Allen's reasoning sounds like mine. However, if they weren't there I'd have just left (unless they were absolutely integral to what we were making).
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    What type is a moran? Because that's what Betty is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reckoner View Post
    What type is a moran?


    LSI?
    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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