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    It's currently Lunar New Year and it is a tradition to visit the homes of friends/relatives and get together and getting red packets (i.e. packets which contain money) from the elders or married relatives. An Si-ISFp friend of mine came up with a plan to pay a visit to the homes of a few friends and acquaintances (including mine) this Saturday before finally heading to her house for steamboat. A group of us (which consisted of herself, an Ne-INTj good friend of ours, and two other friends of the Ne-INTj whom I have not met before) are supposed to visit the houses of everyone in the group on that day.

    I wasn't happy that she had invited the two friends of the Ne-INTj to visit my house without informing me beforehand. To me, they are strangers whom I have not met before and hence, I thought it is weird to invite these people who don't know me to my house and see a private side of my life. However, the Si-ISFp sees it as an opportunity to get to know new friends as she doesn't know them either. Moreover, she had brought a bunch of ppl whom I do not know to my house last year during the previous lunar new year after informing me last minute that they were heading to my house. This had made them feel uncomfortable so everyone just gathered to eat and collect red packets, which I thought was pretty meaningless.

    I do not mind getting to know new people, but not at this setting where people's main objective is to visit as many houses as possible to collect many red packets and I don't get to see them from then on. I also make a clear distinction between friends/acquaintances and strangers, but my Si-ISFp seems to see that it is more important for everyone, irregardless of who they are, to get together and have a good time and then not meet again in future until it is another big event.

    This is one distinction between Alpha Fe and Delta Fi imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice View Post
    It's currently Lunar New Year and it is a tradition to visit the homes of friends/relatives and get together and getting red packets (i.e. packets which contain money) from the elders or married relatives. An Si-ISFp friend of mine came up with a plan to pay a visit to the homes of a few friends and acquaintances (including mine) this Saturday before finally heading to her house for steamboat. A group of us (which consisted of herself, an Ne-INTj good friend of ours, and two other friends of the Ne-INTj whom I have not met before) are supposed to visit the houses of everyone in the group on that day.

    I wasn't happy that she had invited the two friends of the Ne-INTj to visit my house without informing me beforehand. To me, they are strangers whom I have not met before and hence, I thought it is weird to invite these people who don't know me to my house and see a private side of my life. However, the Si-ISFp sees it as an opportunity to get to know new friends as she doesn't know them either. Moreover, she had brought a bunch of ppl whom I do not know to my house last year during the previous lunar new year after informing me last minute that they were heading to my house. This had made them feel uncomfortable so everyone just gathered to eat and collect red packets, which I thought was pretty meaningless.

    I do not mind getting to know new people, but not at this setting where people's main objective is to visit as many houses as possible to collect many red packets and I don't get to see them from then on. I also make a clear distinction between friends/acquaintances and strangers, but my Si-ISFp seems to see that it is more important for everyone, irregardless of who they are, to get together and have a good time and then not meet again in future until it is another big event.

    This is one distinction between Alpha Fe and Delta Fi imo.
    This is really an awkward situation if you're expecting to give them the "red envelop-money". I can pretty much see an Si-ISFp doing that without actually thinking how they can put you in the spot. I think (S)he Proberly predisposed that if you didn't know his/her friend before hand that you were comfortable enough not to hand them it. At least thats how our family interpret it as you don't nesscary have to hand it over to everyone that visits your house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
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    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

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    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    ENTp's are described as finding unaccounted strangers in the house as pretty undesirable. However, ENTp have no problem going to someone else's place unannounced or uninvited if they're with friends. I think it's more of a matter, she would rather have the INTj around rather then not, because if the INTj friends aren't around he probably won't be. I don't really think this has much to do with with Fi or Fe.

    I've found that there are types that are open to anyone in their house at all times, but they have another area of the house that is their private space. I think many people and types have a private place that they do not necessarily want to be intruded upon.
    I think this is the typical clash between FI and Fe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    It's a matter of prudence vs. boldness. Alphas are safety-seeking but not prudence seeking. They want the ability to make decisions of which it is NOT possible to tell beforehand wether they will be working out well. In the limbo of uncertainty that results from this, they find their "highs" of excitement. This is how they differ from deltas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    This is one distinction between Alpha Fe and Delta Fi imo.
    Probably, to a degree. I even speculated on it being related to aristocracy, but I can't see gammas being too open to that sort of thing. Alpha SFs do seem the most prone to ingratiating bullshit, and appear almost unable to distinguish between "different" people. I would not appreciate that situation at all; having people disregard personal boundaries is incredibly vexing to me. I'm not sure whether I would just tell them to fuck off in that situation, but there have been times before where I have had to clearly delineate things (brusquely, at times) in order to just get people away, lol. Anyway, I see delta Fi working in that sort of disjointed faction type of way; "we won't intrude on you, so don't intrude on us" type of thing. So, it makes sense that you would dislike such a thing, not because (like me) they are necessarily "stepping out of their place," but because it seems they are crossing a more implicit boundary? Silent aristocracy or something, lol.
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