Duals not understanding each other
But that's ok!
I don't know if he'll ever understand my existential crisises (sp?) and I don't know if I will ever understand his lack of curiosity with things that don't lead to a tangible goal... but these little mysteries really do make life interesting. Besides, where is the fun in a relationship if you can't give each other odd looks every now and again?
Inability to understand...... h mm..............
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
hmmmm?Originally Posted by UDP
You never say anythign directly, do you?
My husband doesn't understand my moods or what causes them.
I don't understand how he can be so relaxed and calm in even extreme situations.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
My dual doesn't understand why I am so optimistic,
and I do not understand why she is so pessimistic.
Overall, it's a nice balance, even if probably both feel a bit like the other is naive in his approach to life.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
hmmmm?
You never say anythign directly, do you?
If I had something to say, I would say it.
There's no fuzzyness about that, is there?
My response to that post was
"hmm.........."
If there were any more that I wanted to say, I would have said it.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
We want you to say more.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
You know, UDP, you average around 28 posts per day. That's much worse than Joy ever was.
Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)
LOL! This has truth in it! Too funny. I get pissed that he doesn't understand how to help me figure shit out, but then when I stop and listen to him...I learn that I was totally overanalyzing shit and THAT was the problem. It's aggravating because I don't want to STOP analyzing, i want an answer to all my questions. But the answer is to get out of the endless circle of thoughts. Geez. LOL. Addicting thoughts suck ass. So illusive.
There's nothing for me to discuss.
However, I have been using this forum a lot lately, and I think I will be weening myself off from it.
The reason why I don't say anything in my posts is because I have nothing to say, and primarliy use this forum as a substitue for mimial socializing, and passing the time, too. Honestly, there really hasn't been a subject that I've felt like I need to get wholeheartedly involved in.
It's good practice, though, in that I can learn how to make bullshit conversations with other people, both here and there. Superficial conversations are entertaining for a while, but if I get into them too much, I realize that I really start to get warped... Nothing aginst the forum, though. To be honest..... things are at last beginning to pick up at school, so I wouldn't be surprised if I started posting less and less. I'll try to get a box of tissues for everyone, though.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Oh, I'd love to hear your observations. Please share.Especailly the
pair. The "Action" and "Time for Action" is one of the most interesting things I have seen so far in socionics to date.
I have the most horrible sense of deja vu (have you said this before somewhere else on the forum?).
Anyway, that totally makes sense
hmmmm?
You never say anythign directly, do you?
If I had something to say, I would say it.
There's no fuzzyness about that, is there?
My response to that post was
"hmm.........."
If there were any more that I wanted to say, I would have said it.
I thought I perfectly understood him. Allow me to clarify (correct me if I'm wrong):
UDP is skeptical if ishysquishy is seing her dual. Since he is only skeptical and not 100%, he made a somewhat vague statement so nobody could hold him to anything if he was actually wrong. He did at least diplay his reasoning behind his half hearted argument, "Inability to understand..."
BTW: Transigent, I think you're first post was an excelent description of one of the qualities of a dual relationship (ie. taking your mind off your problems).
INTj
"... the present is too much for the senses, too crowding, too confusing, too present to imagine" - RF
He wasn't responding to Transigent...
I don't understand anything and I'm going to stop trying to pretend to understand.
hmmmm?
You never say anythign directly, do you?
If I had something to say, I would say it.
There's no fuzzyness about that, is there?
My response to that post was
"hmm.........."
If there were any more that I wanted to say, I would have said it.
I thought I perfectly understood him. Allow me to clarify (correct me if I'm wrong):
UDP is skeptical if ishysquishy is seing her dual. Since he is only skeptical and not 100%, he made a somewhat vague statement so nobody could hold him to anything if he was actually wrong. He did at least diplay his reasoning behind his half hearted argument, "Inability to understand..."
BTW: Transigent, I think you're first post was an excelent description of one of the qualities of a dual relationship (ie. taking your mind off your problems).
Whatever the case.......
You're not wholely wrong.... but you certainly aren't correct in this assumption of what I said. But I don't fault you; no one really could know what I was talking about.
The most siginficant reason for my post was...
I was considering times in the past when I had trouble understanding someone who could be my dual (the trouble of understanding was actually mutual). ....Made me consider if that person was my dual or my opposite. But it's not important to this thread, so I didn't get into it
Even now I haven't told you all the whole story, and I have no inclination to do so.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Thanks for the elaboration, UDP. I get agitated when people say things and don't explain them, but I appreciate even the most minimal explanation.Whatever the case.......
You're not wholely wrong.... but you certainly aren't correct in this assumption of what I said. But I don't fault you; no one really could know what I was talking about.
The most siginficant reason for my post was...
I was considering times in the past when I had trouble understanding someone who could be my dual (the trouble of understanding was actually mutual). ....Made me consider if that person was my dual or my opposite. But it's not important to this thread, so I didn't get into it
Even now I haven't told you all the whole story, and I have no inclination to do so.
I think duals can seem almost as far apart as your conflictor, the difference being that you actually appreciate their strengths.
edit.
I agree with you but I don't think it's to the same extent as with the dual. Plus with conflictors it's relatively easy to get caught up in hostility (which somewhat diminishes appreciation).
That's something I definately agree with.
My "dual" sounds interesting already.
I know I could never be an ESFj, even if I wanted to
But maybe that's the whole point, no?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Yeah, sorry. I got the names mixed up when I was posting. I thought I went back and changged it, but I must have missed one.He wasn't responding to Transigent...
INTj
"... the present is too much for the senses, too crowding, too confusing, too present to imagine" - RF
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