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    Quote Originally Posted by aestrivex View Post
    i didn't remember this thread but the stereotypes from the OP still strike me as completely not unreasonable from a model X mindset. in sum fuck you all.
    Fuck all on that list you mean. That's better, thank you for cooperation

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    correct ashtonian typings

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    that is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    correct ashtonian typings

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    that is all.
    That's 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    correct ashtonian typings

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    that is all.
    He does occasionally get people's types right. Probably by accident.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor DarkAngelFireWolf69, Dmitri Lytov

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    He does occasionally get people's types right. Probably by accident.
    i'd be careful about generalizing from self-knowledge.

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    You guys are awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    FWIW, 85% are in agreement with the user's self-typing (where one exists).
    Means very little.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor DarkAngelFireWolf69, Dmitri Lytov

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    Haha, I'm 8w9 on your list Ashton.

    Sorry Aleksei.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    List is here: http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...le=User:Ashton

    FWIW, 85% are in agreement with the user's self-typing (where one exists).
    78% by my count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aestrivex View Post
    78% by my count.
    How do you count your list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by aestrivex View Post
    78% by my count.
    How do you count your list?
    Fractals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by aestrivex View Post
    78% by my count.
    How do you count your list?
    primarily i eliminated members that i don't know or who are very old and their present thoughts on socionics are unclear, but in a few cases i also simply moved people from agreeing to disagreeing where ashton's notion of that person's self-type is simply wrong. and yes there are some judgment calls.

    in the grand scheme of things this doesn't make a really big difference, i would agree that his self-typing concordance is fairly high (especially more recently as he is agreeing with more and more self-typings; also mine is much much lower) but it bothers me to see him misrepresent his list and publicly show it off as having a higher concordance than it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aestrivex View Post
    i would agree that his self-typing concordance is fairly high ... also mine is much much lower) but it bothers me to see him misrepresent his list and publicly show it off as having a higher concordance than it does.
    Ah ok, that's what I was curious about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by aestrivex View Post
    i would agree that his self-typing concordance is fairly high ... also mine is much much lower) but it bothers me to see him misrepresent his list and publicly show it off as having a higher concordance than it does.
    Ah ok, that's what I was curious about.
    you're asking the concordance of my own list? it consistently falls at 55-60%.

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