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While not strictly lyrics, I find that Boards of Canada's entire discography and their approach to making music is extremely IEI:
lol, Bright Eyes lyrics make me cringe.
We were neurophobic and perfect
The day that we lost our souls
Machines that wished they were human
If they cry they will rust
And I was a hand grenade
That never stopped exploding
You were automatic and as hollow as the "o" in God
I am never gonna be the one for you
I am never gonna save the world from you
But they'll never be good for you
Or bad to you
They'll never be anything
Anything at all
You were my mechanical bride
You were phenobarbie-doll
A manic queen of depression
With the face of a dead star
And I was a hand grenade
That never stopped exploding
You were automatic and as hollow as the "o" in God
I am never gonna be the one for you
I am never gonna be the one for you
I am never gonna save the world from you
But they'll never be good for you
Or bad to you
They'll never be anything
Anything at all
This isn't me I'm not mechanical
I'm just a boy playing the suicide king
What do these signs mean—,
, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function(extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
This sounds ESE. And awful.Originally Posted by Starfall
love, love, love this song. It was written my an IEI
YouTube - Street to Nowhere-tipsy
hello, my friend
how's your evening been?
oh, you're drunk again
well hush now
hush now
hush now
hush
well I don't mind
but your sister minds
oh but you're off on nights
well I'm gonna keep thinkin'
you keep drinkin'
and blink and I'll drink
no more thinkin' for me
oh yell yeah
oh hell yeah
all I need is you tispy, you tipsy
all my words are comin' out slurred
all I need is you tipsy, you tipsy, you
been here before
but it's spinnin' more
and your mouth's a bore
well hush now
hush now
hush now
hush
and your friends should mind
but they're on my side
and your lips look dry
and Vancouver at 19
with 2 forms of ID
oh yell yeah
oh hell yeah
all I need is you tispy, you tipsy
all my words are comin' out slurred
all I need is you tipsy, you tipsy
wash the excess from your hands
now tipsy, are you coming with me?
finish the glass
I'll smash it
now tipsy, are you coming with me?
hush now
hush now
hush now
hush now
hush now
hush now
1 2 3
1 2 3
oh yell yeah
oh hell yeah
all I need is you tispy, you tipsy
all my words are comin' out slurred
all I need is you tipsy, you tipsy
oh yell yeah
oh hell yeah
all I need is you tispy, you tipsy
all my words are comin' out slurred
all I need is you tipsy, you tipsy
oh yell yeah
oh hell yeah
all I need is you tispy, you tipsy
all my words are comin' out slurred
all I need is you tipsy, you tipsy
oh yell yeah
oh hell yeah
all I need is you tispy, you tipsy
all my words are comin' out slurred
all I need is you tipsy, you tipsy
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Glam you think Eminem is beta NF? his flows is usually better than other rappers...
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(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
actually i know everyone says he's IEI but i think he might be sometype. not sure though.
Heaven ablaze in our eyes
We're standing still in time
The blood on our hands is the wine
We offer as sacrifice
[Chorus]
Come on, and show them your love
Rip out the wings of a butterfly
For your soul, my love
Rip out the wings of a butterfly
For your soul
This endless mercy mile
We're crawling side by side
With hell freezing over in our eyes
Gods kneel before our crime
[Chorus]
Come on lets show, them your love
Rip out the wings of a butterfly
For your soul, my love
Rip out the wings of a butterfly
For your soul
(Rip out the wings of a butterfly)
Don't let go
(Rip out the wings of a butterfly)
For your soul
[Chorus]
Come on, and show them your love
Rip out the wings of a butterfly
For your soul, my love
Rip out the wings of a butterfly
For your soul
(Rip out the wings of a butterfly)
Don't let go
(Rip out the wings of a butterfly) [x2]
For your soul
Don't hate. SLE lyrics are awesome. They're also pants-shittingly terrifying more often than not, but that's part of the charm.
See? Awesome.I have plans, big plans
I'll build you a house
Every stone will be a tear
and you will never move out
Yes, I'll build a little house for you
Has no windows, no door
Inside it is dark
And no light penetrates within
Yes, I'll make you a home
And you will be part of the whole thing
Stone by stone, I wall you in
Stone by stone
I will always be with you
Without clothes, without shoes
You watch me at my work
With feet in cement
You brighten up the foundation
there will be a garden outside
And nobody will hear you scream
Stone by stone, I wall you in
Stone by stone
I will always be with you
what a beating, what a hammering
Outdoors it fades to dusk
All nails stand to attention
Into your body-wood I ram-
Stone by stone, I wall you in
Stone by stone
And nobody can hear you scream
LSI lyrics are even better though.
Back on track
Hungry for life again
Strong in will
Built out of life and force
Trained and willing
Ready to take the world
And make it our own
Alive and kicking
Fighting for what we once dreamed
Having no doubt 'bout what's coming
Feeling mature and dead real
At every crossing a new thrill
Shout it loud and proud
I'm the hyper star
Shining on your life
Keeping you from falling
Back to your own start
World is at your door
What are you waiting for
Yesterday at your back
Now take a step forward
You're your own way
Keep rolling
Don't ever let yourself drown
Keep the good vibe going
You'll never miss a thing
You're in
Come on and rise...
Free your soul
Catch the dream
Where we all shine...
Stand as you are
And let it begin
The reign of light
Free and young
Happy to be what you believe
To be is the way to be happy
More money, more lovers...
Spiritual vacuum
Takes satisfaction away
Leaving you with bitterness
To get what you want
Without having the fun of it
Keep rolling
Don't ever let yourself drown
Keep the good vibe going
You'll never miss a thing
You're in
Come on and rise...
Free your soul
Catch the dream
Where we all shine...
Stand as you are
And let it begin
The reign of light
Shout it loud and proud
I'm the hyper star
Shining on your life
Keeping you from falling
Back to your own start
Keep rolling
Don't ever let yourself drown
Keep the good vibe going
You'll never miss a thing
You're in
Come on and rise...
Free your soul
Catch the dream
Where we all shine...
Stand as you are
And let it begin
The reign of light
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Pretty much everything about his lyrics, Rammstein's act, etc. is based around the theme "shock and titillate," which is very. They have in fact been repeatedly critiqued for being ridiculously over-the-top, which in my view only adds to their awesomeness.
What's your reasoning for LSE?
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Creep is very much an IEI song, as is Wings of a Butterfly (Ville Valo VIs quite strongly as IEI).
This song strikes me as a good example of IEI/SLE duality (the IEI being Dani Filth, the SLE Dirty Harry). The lyrics were not originally by the band, but they resonate quite well with an IEI mentality regardless.
"I've never been closer
I've tried to understand
That certain feeling
Carved by another's hand
But it's too late to hesitate
We can't keep on living like this
Leave no track
Don't look back
All I desire
Temptation
Keep climbing higher and higher
Temptation
Adorable creatures
Temptation
With unacceptable features
Temptation
And trouble is coming
Temptation
It's just the high cost of loving
Temptation
And you can take it or leave it
Temptation
But you'd better believe it
You've got to make me an offer
That cannot be ignored
So let's head for home now
Everything I'll have is yours
Step by step and day by day
Every second counts I can't break away
Leave no trace
Guard your face
Full of desire
Temptation
Keep climbing higher and higher
Temptation
And you can take it or leave it
Temptation
But you'd better believe it
Step by step
And day by day
Every second counts
I can't break away
Keep us from temptation
Keep us from temptation
Keep us from temptation
Lead us not into temptation
Trying to find it
Temptation
You've got to get up behind it
Temptation
Put your dime in the hot slot
Temptation
But it's a million to one shot
Temptation
You think you're right now
Temptation
Your gonna make it tonight now
Temptation
Give me a breakdown
Temptation
Because it's time for a shakedown
Temptation"
The thread quite clearly needs more Marilyn Manson, as well.
"Today I'm dirty
I want to to be pretty
Tomorrow I know, I'm just dirt
Today I'm dirty
I want to to be pretty
Tomorrow I know, I'm just dirt
We are the nobodies
Wanna be somebodies
We're dead, we know just who we are
We are the nobodies
Wanna be somebodies
We're dead, we know just who we are
Yesterday I was dirty
Wanted to be pretty
I know now that I'm forever dirt
Yesterday I was dirty
Wanted to be pretty
I know now that I'm forever dirt
We are the nobodies
Wanna be somebodies
We're dead, we know just who we are
We are the nobodies
Wanna be somebodies
We're dead, we know just who we are
Some children died the other day
We feed machines and then we pray
Look up and down mortified
You should have seen the ratings that day
Some children died the other day
We feed machines and then we pray
Look up and down mortified
You should have seen the ratings that day
We are the nobodies
Wanna be somebodies
We're dead, we know just who we are
We are the nobodies
Wanna be somebodies
We're dead, we know just who we are
We are the nobodies
Wanna be somebodies
We're dead, we know just who we are
We are the nobodies
Wanna be somebodies
We're dead, we know just who we are"
And, of course, who doesn't love vikings and IEI female vocals?
My destiny
I made a promise I couldn’t keep
I left my love on northern ground
My destiny
My destiny….
I’m so lost, I am damned
In this grey lonely valley [I'm damned]
Starless night, so vast and so black
My prayers slowly sink to a whisper
I see your smile, but then I see your eyes
Through the mist of tears
I’m falling into the deep
I’m falling
Drowning in memories [my destiny]
I made a promise
A promise
I’m drowning in destiny [my destiny]
My destiny
My destiny….
All my hopes
Fearless pride
Drowned in smoke and ash [and ash]
A color red
Forsaken blood on ice
The evening dance on me
And do you care
Where I sleep
Do you mind my destiny?
I’m falling into the deep
I’m falling
Drowning in memories [my destiny]
I made a promise
A promise
I’m drowning in destiny [my destiny]
My destiny
My destiny….
The color red
Blood on ice
The evening dance on me
Do you care
Where I sleep
Do you mind my destiny?
I’m falling into the deep
I’m falling, falling
Drowning in memories [my destiny]
I made a promise
A promise
I’m drowning in destiny [my destiny]
My destiny
My destiny….
My destiny [it's my destiny]
My destiny [My destiny]
My destiny"
In a similar vein:
The singer, Tarja Turunen, is not IEI (she's an LSI), but the songs are written by the keyboardist, Tuomas Holopainen. He is IEI.
"This is me for forever
One of the lost ones
The one without a name
Without an honest heart as compass
This is me for forever
One without a name
These lines the last endeavor
To find the missing lifeline
Oh how I wish
For soothing rain
All I wish is to dream again
My loving heart
Lost in the dark
For hope I'd give my everything
My flower
Withered between
The pages two and three
The once and forever bloom gone with my sins
Walk the dark path
Sleep with angels
Call the past for help
Touch me with your love
And reveal to me my true name
Oh how I wish
For soothing rain
All I wish is to dream again
My loving heart
Lost in the dark
For hope I'd give my everything
Oh how I wish
For soothing rain
Oh how I wish to dream again
Once and for all
And all for once
Nemo my name for evermore
Nemo sailing home
Nemo letting go
Oh how I wish
For soothing rain
All I wish is to dream again
My loving heart
Lost in the dark
For hope I'd give my everything
Oh how I wish
For soothing rain
Oh how I wish to dream again
Once and for all
And all for once
Nemo my name for evermore
Nemo my name for evermore"
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2-subtype system: IEI-Fe
8-subtype system: D-IEI-Fe
16-subtype system: IEI-ESE
IEI-Fe 2w3 > p6w5 > 8w7 sx/so
"He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness. We must have felt what it is to die, that we may appreciate the enjoyments of living." - Edmond Dantes (The Count of Monte Cristo, Alexandre Dumas père)
Agreed, death metal and other dark genres are generally heavily set inPretty much everything about his lyrics, Rammstein's act, etc. is based around the theme "shock and titillate," which is very
I can't even think of any LSE's musicians to be quite honest. Maybe they're some in country music
back to topic... I think Leonard Cohen's music is IEIish, Hallelujah being a more well known example
EII INFj
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Yes, I agree, Till Lindemann seems to be rather blatantly Beta ST. Death metal is also typically a Beta ST genre - which I find interesting, as its counterpart, black metal, being more melodic and poetic in focus, strikes me as a more flamboyant sort of Beta NF genre.Agreed, death metal and other dark genres are generally heavily set in
I can't even think of any LSE's musicians to be quite honest. Maybe they're some in country music
back to topic... I think Leonard Cohen's music is IEIish, Hallelujah being a more well known example
YouTube - Hallelujah - Leonard Cohen
Leonard Cohen is indeed very likely an IEI. I adore his work.
2-subtype system: IEI-Fe
8-subtype system: D-IEI-Fe
16-subtype system: IEI-ESE
IEI-Fe 2w3 > p6w5 > 8w7 sx/so
"He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness. We must have felt what it is to die, that we may appreciate the enjoyments of living." - Edmond Dantes (The Count of Monte Cristo, Alexandre Dumas père)
My EII brother listens to death metal.Yeah... I know.
I don't think that it's so clear-cut, some IEI writers (like Lou Reed/Velvet Underground) have very concise and to-the-point lyrics. These "emo" lyrics are just stereotypes.
This is a good example of a song representing a stereotypical Beta attitude, written by an IEI. What I think as Ni are italicized.
There's a lot of Postivism in this song, a lot of positive feelings and attitudes. It also paints a romanticized picture of being "victorious", almost bordering on wishful thinking. Beta Negativists, on the contrast, seem to convey more desolate and barren feelings. Listen to some of the songs by U2 and Madonna to get some examples.Change
You know it’s all the same, another time and place
Repeating history and you’re getting sick of it
Because these things will change
Can you feel it now?
These walls that they put up to hold us back will fall down
This revolution, the time will come
For us to finally win
And we’ll sing hallelujah, we’ll sing hallelujah
So we’ve been outnumbered
Raided and now cornered
It’s hard to fight when the fight ain’t fair
We’re getting stronger now
Find things they never found
They might be bigger
But we’re faster and never scared
Tonight we stand, get off our knees
Fight for what we've worked for all these years
And the battle was long, it’s the fight of our lives
But we’ll stand up champions tonight
It was the night things changed
Can you see it now?
These walls that they put up to hold us back fell down
It’s a revolution, throw your hands up
Cause we never gave in
And we sang hallelujah, we sang hallelujah
Hallelujah
Death Metal is indeed a very BetaAgreed, death metal and other dark genres are generally heavily set in
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
That... is probably not Fi PoLR. It sounds like he holds a secret code of standards for himself, and he feels "guilty" if he doesn't live up to others' expectations of him. In fact, I think that feeling responsible for everything that happens around them, whether it is actually related to them or not, is often a (unhealthy) creative-Fe thing. It reminds me of the song, "All Apologies" by Nirvana:
i think Diana Krall is an LSE, she's a jazz musician:I can't even think of any LSE's musicians to be quite honest. Maybe they're some in country music
I think Liederman is LSE, and Manson is EIE, not IEI. Ive never seen him typed as IEI(its usually always EIE or ILE) so its interesting in a way though.
Manson's quite withdrawn and reclusive, and his lyrics emphasize
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Manson isnt really as withdrawn as the image he gives off I dont think. I think the issues he deals with are in essence exterior(ie puritanical american society, the media etc) he seems in essence an extrovert to me but thats just me.
He has an extroverted public image, yes. He's Fe subtype. IEIs are not exactly basement dwellers (they're the second least reserved introvert type, after SEIs). He's hyper-reclusive in interviews, however, as seen in his interview with O'Reilly:
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
OMG Starfall! I recently heard that song and for some reason I totally got teary-eyed. I thought the exact same thing you did... perfect example of IEI lyrics to an SLE/LSI. I thought Dr. Dre was SLE though... it was just so lovely, the whole vibe of the song, yay Beta
york is either INFp or ISFp.
Here's some more INFp lyrics:
Instincts that can still betray us,
A journey that leads to the sun,
Soulless and bent on destruction,
A struggle between right and wrong.
You take my place in the showdown,
I'll observe with a pitiful eye,
I'd humbly ask for forgiveness,
A request well beyond you and I.
Heart and soul, one will burn.
Heart and soul, one will burn.
An abyss that laughs at creation,
A circus complete with all fools,
Foundations that lasted the ages,
Then ripped apart at their roots.
Beyond all this good is the terror,
The grip of a mercenary hand,
When savagery turns all good reason,
There's no turning back, no last stand.
Heart and soul, one will burn.
Heart and soul, one will burn.
Existence well what does it matter?
I exist on the best terms I can.
The past is now part of my future,
The present is well out of hand.
The present is well out of hand.
Heart and soul, one will burn.
Heart and soul, one will burn.
One will burn, one will burn.
Heart and soul, one will burn.
I think Eminem's N-SLE (SLE-ESI to be precise). He's impulsive and aggressive as all bloody hell, in a manner not quite fitting Se-suggestive.
As for Jewel, I've no clue but that song actually sounds like some sort of Beta irrational (SLE-IEI, or IEI-EIE is my guess).
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
IEI
I think Amy Lee IEI too
Necro.
Mos Def
Yes, I am the inescapable, the irresistable
The unnegotiable, the unchallenged (who dat? )
I am time
I scroll in measurements, control the elements
I hold the evidence, I tell the story (say what? )
I am time
I know no prejudice, I bare no sentiments
For wealth or settlement, I move forward (who you? )
I am time
You can't recover me, conceal or smuggle me
Retreat or run from me, crawl up or under me
You can't do much for me besides serve
Me well and have good dividends returned to you
Or attempt to kill me off and have me murder you
Many have wasted me but now they are facing me
Treated me unfaithfully and now endure me painfully
Plaintively, I wait to see what history will shape to be
Who's hearts will never die inside the sake of me
Angel's scribe the page for me
Keep a full account of all the names for me
The Bell Jar was mostly interesting based on the way Sylvia Plath writes. It’s gorgeous. Billy Corgan could get shot for all I care. Shame too, every now and then I will let an SP song back into my midst, but I find it a bit hard to Kaifeng to them overall now :/
Fiona Apple, potential IEI
Every Single Night
Every single night
I endure the flight
Of little wings of white-flamed
Butterflies in my brain
These ideas of mine
Percolate the mind
Trickle down the spine
Swarm the belly, swelling to a blaze
That's where the pain comes in
Like a second skeleton
Trying to fit beneath the skin
I can't fit the feelings in
Every single night's alight with my brain
What'd I say to her?
Why'd I say to her?
What does she think of me?
That I'm not what I ought to be
That I'm what I try not to be
It's got to be somebody else's fault
I can't get caught
If what I am is what I am, 'cause I does what I does
Then brother, get back, 'cause my breast's gonna bust open
The rib is the shell and the heart is the yolk
I just made a meal for us both to choke on
Every single night's a fight with my brain
I just want to feel everything
I just want to feel everything
I just want to feel everything
So I'm gonna try to be still now
Gonna renounce the mill a little while and
If we had a double-king-sized bed
We could move in it and I'd soon forget
That what I am is what I am 'cause I does what I does
And maybe I'd relax, let my breast just bust open
My heart's made of parts of all that surround me
And that's why the devil just can't get around me
Every single night's alright, every single night's a fight
And every single fight's alright with my brain
I just want to feel everything
I just want to feel everything
I just want to feel everything
I just want to feel everything
PJ Harvey, potential IEI
Shame
I don't need no rising moon
I don't need no ball and chain
I don't need anything but you
Such a shame, shame, shame
Shame, shame, shame
Shame is the shadow of love
You changed my life
We were as green as grass
And I was hypnotized
From the first 'til the last
Kiss of shame, shame, shame
Shame is the shadow of love
I'd jump for you into the fire
I'd jump for you into the flame
Tried to go forward with my life
I just feel shame, shame, shame
Shame, shame, shame
Shame is the shadow of love
If you tell a lie
I still would take the blame
If you pass me by
It's such a shame, shame, shame
York has some of my favorite lyrics.
"Just cause you feel it, doesn't mean it's there"
Living at different places
Evading into various spaces
My compass has broken
I'm losing the way
An ongoing madness has led me astray
My past breathes down my neck
And it seems now that all I can do is
Go back to beginnings when all lay ahead
A fading illusion now plagues me instead
In me, there's still a place that fulfills me
A sanctity here that I call home
I run to, when winter descends
If I try, can I find solid ground?
I follow elusive paths
Oh, it seems they've been written in stone
And the door to a new life is closing so fast
Burning the bridges will not bring me back
In me, there's still a place that fulfills me
A sanctity here that I call home
I run to, when winter descends
If I try, can I find solid ground?
In me, there's still a place that fulfills me
A sanctity here that I call home
I run to, when winter descends
If I try, can I find solid ground?
I know that in me, there's still a place that fulfills me
A sanctity here that I call home
I run to, when winter descends
If I try, can I find solid ground?
Or am I just wasting time?
I hate poetry.... I just came here to upset a few people.
Imo rather beta NF:
A consequence of technology
Colliding head on into disgraced humanity
Sometimes it’s wrong, sometimes it’s right
Constantly torn between the Darkness and the Light
Enemies raging behind my eyes
Shadows caress me while whispering their lies
Hell calls my name as the Heavens cry
I don’t know what to do so I keep praying for the end of time
(The end of time)
(I'm praying)
Hell calls my name as the Heavens cry
(I don’t know what to do) So I keep praying for the end of time
See the world though the eyes of coal, the sprawling wasteland of my soul
A mind of darkness, heart of light, I am Onyx, black and white
Save me from this paradigm, save me from the end of time
Enemies raging behind my eyes
Shadows caress me while whispering their lies
Hell calls my name as the Heavens cry
I don’t know what to do so I keep praying for the end of (time)
(I don’t know what to do so I keep praying for the end of time)
(End of time) (I'm praying)
Hell calls my name as the Heavens cry
(I don’t know what to do) So I keep praying for the end of time
(The Darkness and the Light)
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