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    poop

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    While not strictly lyrics, I find that Boards of Canada's entire discography and their approach to making music is extremely IEI:

    4w5 sp/sx

    Please, direct all questioning of my self-typing to this thread. Thank you.

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    lol, Bright Eyes lyrics make me cringe.

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    We were neurophobic and perfect
    The day that we lost our souls
    Machines that wished they were human
    If they cry they will rust
    And I was a hand grenade
    That never stopped exploding
    You were automatic and as hollow as the "o" in God

    I am never gonna be the one for you
    I am never gonna save the world from you
    But they'll never be good for you
    Or bad to you
    They'll never be anything
    Anything at all

    You were my mechanical bride
    You were phenobarbie-doll
    A manic queen of depression
    With the face of a dead star
    And I was a hand grenade
    That never stopped exploding
    You were automatic and as hollow as the "o" in God

    I am never gonna be the one for you
    I am never gonna be the one for you
    I am never gonna save the world from you
    But they'll never be good for you
    Or bad to you
    They'll never be anything
    Anything at all

    This isn't me I'm not mechanical
    I'm just a boy playing the suicide king
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    love, love, love this song. It was written my an IEI

    YouTube - Street to Nowhere-tipsy

    hello, my friend
    how's your evening been?
    oh, you're drunk again
    well hush now
    hush now
    hush now
    hush

    well I don't mind
    but your sister minds
    oh but you're off on nights
    well I'm gonna keep thinkin'
    you keep drinkin'
    and blink and I'll drink
    no more thinkin' for me

    oh yell yeah
    oh hell yeah
    all I need is you tispy, you tipsy
    all my words are comin' out slurred
    all I need is you tipsy, you tipsy, you

    been here before
    but it's spinnin' more
    and your mouth's a bore
    well hush now
    hush now
    hush now
    hush

    and your friends should mind
    but they're on my side
    and your lips look dry
    and Vancouver at 19
    with 2 forms of ID

    oh yell yeah
    oh hell yeah
    all I need is you tispy, you tipsy
    all my words are comin' out slurred
    all I need is you tipsy, you tipsy

    wash the excess from your hands
    now tipsy, are you coming with me?
    finish the glass
    I'll smash it
    now tipsy, are you coming with me?

    hush now
    hush now
    hush now
    hush now
    hush now
    hush now
    1 2 3
    1 2 3

    oh yell yeah
    oh hell yeah
    all I need is you tispy, you tipsy
    all my words are comin' out slurred
    all I need is you tipsy, you tipsy
    oh yell yeah
    oh hell yeah
    all I need is you tispy, you tipsy
    all my words are comin' out slurred
    all I need is you tipsy, you tipsy
    oh yell yeah
    oh hell yeah
    all I need is you tispy, you tipsy
    all my words are comin' out slurred
    all I need is you tipsy, you tipsy
    oh yell yeah
    oh hell yeah
    all I need is you tispy, you tipsy
    all my words are comin' out slurred
    all I need is you tipsy, you tipsy
    This sounds ESE. And awful.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
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    Glam you think Eminem is beta NF? his flows is usually better than other rappers...
    Last edited by glam; 12-14-2010 at 05:39 AM.
    (D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    Glam you think Eminem is beta NF? his flows is usually better than other rappers...
    actually i know everyone says he's IEI but i think he might be some type. not sure though.

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    Heaven ablaze in our eyes
    We're standing still in time
    The blood on our hands is the wine
    We offer as sacrifice

    [Chorus]
    Come on, and show them your love
    Rip out the wings of a butterfly
    For your soul, my love
    Rip out the wings of a butterfly
    For your soul

    This endless mercy mile
    We're crawling side by side
    With hell freezing over in our eyes
    Gods kneel before our crime

    [Chorus]
    Come on lets show, them your love
    Rip out the wings of a butterfly
    For your soul, my love
    Rip out the wings of a butterfly
    For your soul
    (Rip out the wings of a butterfly)
    Don't let go
    (Rip out the wings of a butterfly)
    For your soul

    [Chorus]
    Come on, and show them your love
    Rip out the wings of a butterfly
    For your soul, my love
    Rip out the wings of a butterfly
    For your soul
    (Rip out the wings of a butterfly)
    Don't let go
    (Rip out the wings of a butterfly) [x2]

    For your soul

    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Only because IEI's are generally better writers/lyricists than SLE's.
    Don't hate. SLE lyrics are awesome. They're also pants-shittingly terrifying more often than not, but that's part of the charm.



    I have plans, big plans
    I'll build you a house
    Every stone will be a tear
    and you will never move out
    Yes, I'll build a little house for you
    Has no windows, no door
    Inside it is dark
    And no light penetrates within

    Yes, I'll make you a home
    And you will be part of the whole thing

    Stone by stone, I wall you in
    Stone by stone
    I will always be with you

    Without clothes, without shoes
    You watch me at my work
    With feet in cement
    You brighten up the foundation
    there will be a garden outside
    And nobody will hear you scream

    Stone by stone, I wall you in
    Stone by stone
    I will always be with you

    what a beating, what a hammering
    Outdoors it fades to dusk
    All nails stand to attention
    Into your body-wood I ram-

    Stone by stone, I wall you in
    Stone by stone
    And nobody can hear you scream
    See? Awesome.

    LSI lyrics are even better though.



    Back on track
    Hungry for life again
    Strong in will
    Built out of life and force
    Trained and willing
    Ready to take the world
    And make it our own
    Alive and kicking
    Fighting for what we once dreamed
    Having no doubt 'bout what's coming
    Feeling mature and dead real
    At every crossing a new thrill

    Shout it loud and proud
    I'm the hyper star
    Shining on your life
    Keeping you from falling
    Back to your own start
    World is at your door
    What are you waiting for
    Yesterday at your back
    Now take a step forward
    You're your own way

    Keep rolling
    Don't ever let yourself drown
    Keep the good vibe going
    You'll never miss a thing
    You're in
    Come on and rise...
    Free your soul
    Catch the dream
    Where we all shine...
    Stand as you are
    And let it begin
    The reign of light

    Free and young
    Happy to be what you believe
    To be is the way to be happy
    More money, more lovers...
    Spiritual vacuum
    Takes satisfaction away
    Leaving you with bitterness
    To get what you want
    Without having the fun of it

    Keep rolling
    Don't ever let yourself drown
    Keep the good vibe going
    You'll never miss a thing
    You're in
    Come on and rise...
    Free your soul
    Catch the dream
    Where we all shine...
    Stand as you are
    And let it begin
    The reign of light

    Shout it loud and proud
    I'm the hyper star
    Shining on your life
    Keeping you from falling
    Back to your own start

    Keep rolling
    Don't ever let yourself drown
    Keep the good vibe going
    You'll never miss a thing
    You're in
    Come on and rise...
    Free your soul
    Catch the dream
    Where we all shine...
    Stand as you are
    And let it begin
    The reign of light
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    Pretty much everything about his lyrics, Rammstein's act, etc. is based around the theme "shock and titillate," which is very , especially + . They have in fact been repeatedly critiqued for being ridiculously over-the-top, which in my view only adds to their awesomeness.

    What's your reasoning for LSE?
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    Creep is very much an IEI song, as is Wings of a Butterfly (Ville Valo VIs quite strongly as IEI).


    This song strikes me as a good example of IEI/SLE duality (the IEI being Dani Filth, the SLE Dirty Harry). The lyrics were not originally by the band, but they resonate quite well with an IEI mentality regardless.

    "I've never been closer
    I've tried to understand
    That certain feeling
    Carved by another's hand
    But it's too late to hesitate
    We can't keep on living like this

    Leave no track
    Don't look back

    All I desire
    Temptation
    Keep climbing higher and higher
    Temptation
    Adorable creatures
    Temptation
    With unacceptable features
    Temptation
    And trouble is coming
    Temptation
    It's just the high cost of loving
    Temptation
    And you can take it or leave it
    Temptation
    But you'd better believe it

    You've got to make me an offer
    That cannot be ignored
    So let's head for home now
    Everything I'll have is yours
    Step by step and day by day
    Every second counts I can't break away

    Leave no trace
    Guard your face

    Full of desire
    Temptation
    Keep climbing higher and higher
    Temptation
    And you can take it or leave it
    Temptation
    But you'd better believe it


    Step by step
    And day by day
    Every second counts
    I can't break away

    Keep us from temptation
    Keep us from temptation
    Keep us from temptation
    Lead us not into temptation

    Trying to find it
    Temptation
    You've got to get up behind it
    Temptation
    Put your dime in the hot slot
    Temptation
    But it's a million to one shot
    Temptation
    You think you're right now
    Temptation
    Your gonna make it tonight now
    Temptation
    Give me a breakdown
    Temptation
    Because it's time for a shakedown
    Temptation"

    The thread quite clearly needs more Marilyn Manson, as well.



    "Today I'm dirty
    I want to to be pretty
    Tomorrow I know, I'm just dirt
    Today I'm dirty
    I want to to be pretty
    Tomorrow I know, I'm just dirt

    We are the nobodies
    Wanna be somebodies
    We're dead, we know just who we are
    We are the nobodies
    Wanna be somebodies
    We're dead, we know just who we are

    Yesterday I was dirty
    Wanted to be pretty
    I know now that I'm forever dirt
    Yesterday I was dirty
    Wanted to be pretty
    I know now that I'm forever dirt

    We are the nobodies
    Wanna be somebodies
    We're dead, we know just who we are
    We are the nobodies
    Wanna be somebodies
    We're dead, we know just who we are

    Some children died the other day
    We feed machines and then we pray
    Look up and down mortified
    You should have seen the ratings that day
    Some children died the other day
    We feed machines and then we pray
    Look up and down mortified
    You should have seen the ratings that day

    We are the nobodies
    Wanna be somebodies
    We're dead, we know just who we are
    We are the nobodies
    Wanna be somebodies
    We're dead, we know just who we are
    We are the nobodies
    Wanna be somebodies
    We're dead, we know just who we are
    We are the nobodies
    Wanna be somebodies
    We're dead, we know just who we are"

    And, of course, who doesn't love vikings and IEI female vocals?




    My destiny
    I made a promise I couldn’t keep
    I left my love on northern ground
    My destiny
    My destiny….

    I’m so lost, I am damned
    In this grey lonely valley [I'm damned]
    Starless night, so vast and so black
    My prayers slowly sink to a whisper
    I see your smile, but then I see your eyes
    Through the mist of tears

    I’m falling into the deep
    I’m falling
    Drowning in memories [my destiny]
    I made a promise
    A promise
    I’m drowning in destiny [my destiny]
    My destiny
    My destiny….

    All my hopes
    Fearless pride
    Drowned in smoke and ash [and ash]
    A color red
    Forsaken blood on ice
    The evening dance on me
    And do you care
    Where I sleep
    Do you mind my destiny?

    I’m falling into the deep
    I’m falling
    Drowning in memories [my destiny]
    I made a promise
    A promise
    I’m drowning in destiny [my destiny]
    My destiny
    My destiny….

    The color red
    Blood on ice
    The evening dance on me
    Do you care
    Where I sleep
    Do you mind my destiny?

    I’m falling into the deep
    I’m falling, falling
    Drowning in memories [my destiny]
    I made a promise
    A promise
    I’m drowning in destiny [my destiny]
    My destiny
    My destiny….

    My destiny [it's my destiny]
    My destiny [My destiny]
    My destiny"

    In a similar vein:



    The singer, Tarja Turunen, is not IEI (she's an LSI), but the songs are written by the keyboardist, Tuomas Holopainen. He is IEI.

    "This is me for forever
    One of the lost ones
    The one without a name
    Without an honest heart as compass

    This is me for forever
    One without a name
    These lines the last endeavor
    To find the missing lifeline

    Oh how I wish
    For soothing rain
    All I wish is to dream again
    My loving heart
    Lost in the dark
    For hope I'd give my everything

    My flower
    Withered between
    The pages two and three
    The once and forever bloom gone with my sins

    Walk the dark path
    Sleep with angels
    Call the past for help
    Touch me with your love
    And reveal to me my true name

    Oh how I wish
    For soothing rain
    All I wish is to dream again
    My loving heart
    Lost in the dark
    For hope I'd give my everything

    Oh how I wish
    For soothing rain
    Oh how I wish to dream again
    Once and for all
    And all for once
    Nemo my name for evermore

    Nemo sailing home
    Nemo letting go

    Oh how I wish
    For soothing rain
    All I wish is to dream again
    My loving heart
    Lost in the dark
    For hope I'd give my everything

    Oh how I wish
    For soothing rain
    Oh how I wish to dream again
    Once and for all
    And all for once
    Nemo my name for evermore

    Nemo my name for evermore"
    Last edited by CloudCuckooLander; 12-13-2010 at 11:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Pretty much everything about his lyrics, Rammstein's act, etc. is based around the theme "shock and titillate," which is very , especially + . They have in fact been repeatedly critiqued for being ridiculously over-the-top, which in my view only adds to their awesomeness.
    Agreed, death metal and other dark genres are generally heavily set in quadras. I think Lindermann is LSI>SLE from the old thread I read a while back

    I can't even think of any LSE's musicians to be quite honest. Maybe they're some in country music

    back to topic... I think Leonard Cohen's music is IEIish, Hallelujah being a more well known example

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marie84 View Post
    Agreed, death metal and other dark genres are generally heavily set in quadras. I think Lindermann is LSI>SLE from the old thread I read a while back

    I can't even think of any LSE's musicians to be quite honest. Maybe they're some in country music

    back to topic... I think Leonard Cohen's music is IEIish, Hallelujah being a more well known example

    YouTube - Hallelujah - Leonard Cohen
    Yes, I agree, Till Lindemann seems to be rather blatantly Beta ST. Death metal is also typically a Beta ST genre - which I find interesting, as its counterpart, black metal, being more melodic and poetic in focus, strikes me as a more flamboyant sort of Beta NF genre.

    Leonard Cohen is indeed very likely an IEI. I adore his work.
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    16-subtype system: IEI-ESE

    IEI-Fe 2w3 > p6w5 > 8w7 sx/so

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    My EII brother listens to death metal. Yeah... I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by ananke
    IEI lyrics seem so unnecessarily flowery to me, and I don't understand why simple concepts need so many words.
    I don't think that it's so clear-cut, some IEI writers (like Lou Reed/Velvet Underground) have very concise and to-the-point lyrics. These "emo" lyrics are just stereotypes.

    This is a good example of a song representing a stereotypical Beta attitude, written by an IEI. What I think as Ni are italicized.

    Change

    You know it’s all the same, another time and place
    Repeating history and you’re getting sick of it


    Because these things will change
    Can you feel it now?
    These walls that they put up to hold us back will fall down
    This revolution, the time will come
    For us to finally win
    And we’ll sing hallelujah, we’ll sing hallelujah

    So we’ve been outnumbered
    Raided and now cornered
    It’s hard to fight when the fight ain’t fair
    We’re getting stronger now
    Find things they never found
    They might be bigger
    But we’re faster and never scared

    Tonight we stand, get off our knees
    Fight for what we've worked for all these years
    And the battle was long, it’s the fight of our lives
    But we’ll stand up champions tonight

    It was the night things changed
    Can you see it now?
    These walls that they put up to hold us back fell down
    It’s a revolution, throw your hands up
    Cause we never gave in
    And we sang hallelujah, we sang hallelujah
    Hallelujah
    There's a lot of Postivism in this song, a lot of positive feelings and attitudes. It also paints a romanticized picture of being "victorious", almost bordering on wishful thinking. Beta Negativists, on the contrast, seem to convey more desolate and barren feelings. Listen to some of the songs by U2 and Madonna to get some examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marie84 View Post
    Agreed, death metal and other dark genres are generally heavily set in quadras. I think Lindermann is LSI>SLE from the old thread I read a while back
    Death Metal is indeed a very Beta genre, but Rammstein isn't Death Metal (they're industrial metal). I'd be willing to buy LSI for Lindemann, but he significantly plays up the Beta extrovert elements in Rammstein's presentation, leading me to type the overal theme of the band itself as SLE.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    SLE...

    YouTube - Akon - Sorry blame it on me [lyrics]

    I know this is an IEI lyrics thread, but I just felt as if the lyrics to this song resonates strongly with the SLEs Fi PoLR. A SLE introduced me to this song & wanted me to listen carefully to the lyrics for no particular reason; said he identified with them.
    That... is probably not Fi PoLR. It sounds like he holds a secret code of standards for himself, and he feels "guilty" if he doesn't live up to others' expectations of him. In fact, I think that feeling responsible for everything that happens around them, whether it is actually related to them or not, is often a (unhealthy) creative-Fe thing. It reminds me of the song, "All Apologies" by Nirvana:

    Quote Originally Posted by All Apologies
    What else should I be
    All apologies

    Find my nest of salt
    Everything is my fault
    I'll take all the blame
    Aqua seafoam shame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marie84 View Post
    I can't even think of any LSE's musicians to be quite honest. Maybe they're some in country music
    i think Diana Krall is an LSE, she's a jazz musician:


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    I think Liederman is LSE, and Manson is EIE, not IEI. Ive never seen him typed as IEI(its usually always EIE or ILE) so its interesting in a way though.

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    Manson's quite withdrawn and reclusive, and his lyrics emphasize over . In MBTI, I actually think he's INTJ (which is actually a fairly common match to IEI).
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    Manson isnt really as withdrawn as the image he gives off I dont think. I think the issues he deals with are in essence exterior(ie puritanical american society, the media etc) he seems in essence an extrovert to me but thats just me.

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    He has an extroverted public image, yes. He's Fe subtype. IEIs are not exactly basement dwellers (they're the second least reserved introvert type, after SEIs). He's hyper-reclusive in interviews, however, as seen in his interview with O'Reilly:

    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    OMG Starfall! I recently heard that song and for some reason I totally got teary-eyed. I thought the exact same thing you did... perfect example of IEI lyrics to an SLE/LSI. I thought Dr. Dre was SLE though... it was just so lovely, the whole vibe of the song, yay Beta


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    york is either INFp or ISFp.
    Here's some more INFp lyrics:

    Instincts that can still betray us,
    A journey that leads to the sun,
    Soulless and bent on destruction,
    A struggle between right and wrong.
    You take my place in the showdown,
    I'll observe with a pitiful eye,
    I'd humbly ask for forgiveness,
    A request well beyond you and I.

    Heart and soul, one will burn.
    Heart and soul, one will burn.

    An abyss that laughs at creation,
    A circus complete with all fools,
    Foundations that lasted the ages,
    Then ripped apart at their roots.
    Beyond all this good is the terror,
    The grip of a mercenary hand,
    When savagery turns all good reason,
    There's no turning back, no last stand.

    Heart and soul, one will burn.
    Heart and soul, one will burn.

    Existence well what does it matter?
    I exist on the best terms I can.
    The past is now part of my future,
    The present is well out of hand.
    The present is well out of hand.

    Heart and soul, one will burn.
    Heart and soul, one will burn.
    One will burn, one will burn.
    Heart and soul, one will burn.

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    I think Eminem's N-SLE (SLE-ESI to be precise). He's impulsive and aggressive as all bloody hell, in a manner not quite fitting Se-suggestive.

    As for Jewel, I've no clue but that song actually sounds like some sort of Beta irrational (SLE-IEI, or IEI-EIE is my guess).
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    IEI



    I think Amy Lee IEI too

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    Necro.

    Mos Def

    Yes, I am the inescapable, the irresistable
    The unnegotiable, the unchallenged (who dat? )

    I am time

    I scroll in measurements, control the elements
    I hold the evidence, I tell the story (say what? )

    I am time

    I know no prejudice, I bare no sentiments
    For wealth or settlement, I move forward (who you? )

    I am time

    You can't recover me, conceal or smuggle me
    Retreat or run from me, crawl up or under me
    You can't do much for me besides serve
    Me well and have good dividends returned to you
    Or attempt to kill me off and have me murder you
    Many have wasted me but now they are facing me
    Treated me unfaithfully and now endure me painfully
    Plaintively, I wait to see what history will shape to be
    Who's hearts will never die inside the sake of me
    Angel's scribe the page for me
    Keep a full account of all the names for me

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    The Bell Jar was mostly interesting based on the way Sylvia Plath writes. It’s gorgeous. Billy Corgan could get shot for all I care. Shame too, every now and then I will let an SP song back into my midst, but I find it a bit hard to Kaifeng to them overall now :/
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    How about Billy Corgan from The Smashing Pumpkins?
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    Tonight, Tonight - one of my favourite music videos and songs. I think it's rather dramatic.

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=EsZYqa...eature=related
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    Fiona Apple, potential IEI

    Every Single Night

    Every single night
    I endure the flight
    Of little wings of white-flamed
    Butterflies in my brain
    These ideas of mine
    Percolate the mind
    Trickle down the spine
    Swarm the belly, swelling to a blaze
    That's where the pain comes in
    Like a second skeleton
    Trying to fit beneath the skin
    I can't fit the feelings in
    Every single night's alight with my brain

    What'd I say to her?
    Why'd I say to her?
    What does she think of me?
    That I'm not what I ought to be
    That I'm what I try not to be
    It's got to be somebody else's fault
    I can't get caught
    If what I am is what I am, 'cause I does what I does
    Then brother, get back, 'cause my breast's gonna bust open
    The rib is the shell and the heart is the yolk
    I just made a meal for us both to choke on
    Every single night's a fight with my brain
    I just want to feel everything
    I just want to feel everything
    I just want to feel everything
    So I'm gonna try to be still now
    Gonna renounce the mill a little while and
    If we had a double-king-sized bed
    We could move in it and I'd soon forget
    That what I am is what I am 'cause I does what I does
    And maybe I'd relax, let my breast just bust open
    My heart's made of parts of all that surround me
    And that's why the devil just can't get around me
    Every single night's alright, every single night's a fight
    And every single fight's alright with my brain
    I just want to feel everything
    I just want to feel everything
    I just want to feel everything
    I just want to feel everything


    PJ Harvey, potential IEI

    ​Shame

    I don't need no rising moon
    I don't need no ball and chain
    I don't need anything but you
    Such a shame, shame, shame
    Shame, shame, shame
    Shame is the shadow of love
    You changed my life
    We were as green as grass
    And I was hypnotized
    From the first 'til the last
    Kiss of shame, shame, shame
    Shame is the shadow of love

    I'd jump for you into the fire
    I'd jump for you into the flame
    Tried to go forward with my life
    I just feel shame, shame, shame
    Shame, shame, shame
    Shame is the shadow of love
    If you tell a lie
    I still would take the blame
    If you pass me by
    It's such a shame, shame, shame
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    York has some of my favorite lyrics.

    "Just cause you feel it, doesn't mean it's there"

    Quote Originally Posted by rat1 View Post
    york is either INFp or ISFp.
    Here's some more INFp lyrics:

    Instincts that can still betray us,
    A journey that leads to the sun,
    Soulless and bent on destruction,
    A struggle between right and wrong.
    You take my place in the showdown,
    I'll observe with a pitiful eye,
    I'd humbly ask for forgiveness,
    A request well beyond you and I.

    Heart and soul, one will burn.
    Heart and soul, one will burn.

    An abyss that laughs at creation,
    A circus complete with all fools,
    Foundations that lasted the ages,
    Then ripped apart at their roots.
    Beyond all this good is the terror,
    The grip of a mercenary hand,
    When savagery turns all good reason,
    There's no turning back, no last stand.

    Heart and soul, one will burn.
    Heart and soul, one will burn.

    Existence well what does it matter?
    I exist on the best terms I can.
    The past is now part of my future,
    The present is well out of hand.
    The present is well out of hand.

    Heart and soul, one will burn.
    Heart and soul, one will burn.
    One will burn, one will burn.
    Heart and soul, one will burn.
    "I am my own muse. I am the subject I know best, the subject I want to know better."
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