50 Cent Curtis James Jackson III

[mimisor]

I wonder is he an ENTp? I see a lot of infantile behaviour about him and also most probable an extrovert. What do the ENTps here think?

[MySaviour]

ENTj
ESTp
ISTp

Probably ENTj.

[mimisor]

come on guys are you serious?

just compare eminem with 50 and you'll see the difference
case in point

em is ISTp, you can see the Si dominant, 50 doesn't have it, he only imitates the Si - it is his suggestive function, probably

[Crunk Man]

50 Cent is an ISTP. No way in hell is an any sort of intuitive.



End of story.

[mimisor]

maybe he's not an intuitive, but where's the introversion? i really can't see it

[Crunk Man]

Watch any interview. He's a huge introvert.

[Raver]

I think either ESTp or an ISTp. He could pass as an ESFp or an ISFp. He said the reason he drives hummers and wears all the bling is because when he was younger he saw others driving it and it commanded respect from the neighbourhood and friends. ISTp makes the most sense though.

Is that an indication of strong or ?

[mimisor]

alrighty so eminem is ISTp as we've come to the conclusionhttp://the16types.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1556

now you tell me how in the world these people are actually similar to each other? Because I see only differences.

and please don't let yourself confused about the hummers and bling, those are normal for a celebrity. Any person no matter the type would do the same with all that money. they have to keep at a level.
Other then that, focus more on the psychological side.

[Rocky]

50 Cent... ESTp...

[mimisor]

No kiddin, Rocky - ESTp? I can definetely sense Alpha more than anything.
What you think?

[FDG]

ENTj
ESTp
ISTp

Probably ENTj.

Where do you see any NT in him?

[Creepy-]

50 Cent... ESTp...

I thought all celebrities were ENTp? :wink:

[MySaviour]

ENTj
ESTp
ISTp

Probably ENTj.

Where do you see any NT in him?

Ahaha.. usually I put ENTj wherever I put ESTp.

[Dioklecian]

He is ISTJ guys!

[mimisor]

Told ya, he's an EXTROVERT fo shizzle!!!

I think it's nailed down to ESTP or ENTp, most probably.

It's the Look-a-like between these two types that makes me difficult to decide.

[Crunk Man]

Told ya, he's an EXTROVERT fo shizzle!!!

I think it's nailed down to ESTP or ENTp, most probably.

It's the Look-a-like between these two types that makes me difficult to decide.

He's not an intuitive or NT by any stretch of the imagination.

[Monkman]

Ive seen interviews and stuff....Id say he is probably Introvert.

[WVBRY]

50 Cent... ESTp...

I thought all celebrities were ENTp? :wink:

But all rappers are ESTP

[ScanDave]

I vote ESTp. And I'm basing it off his mannerism and his facial features are similar to my ESTp friend's.

And if you see the movie, which is based on his life there was a part near the end, after he got shot, where his girl was going to leave him because she thought he didn't care or was being selfish or something. Well, she said something to him, and he started crying. I dunno, it just seemed like an ESTp with weak doing his best to .

[proteanmix]

i definitely think 50 is a introvert. you all can't judge him by his celebrity. if you watch his interviews ( or read his lyrics), it would be pretty obvious. as for his type, i'd say istp.

[mimisor]

lol people you gotta be kiddin me, 50 is NOT an introvert in a million years

sorry, you don't know what you're talking


I've seen videos, interviews

oh and it's not such a good idea to judge by the lyrics only, it can help though sometimes if we're sure they are writtten by the artist in person

Look better for his ususal demeanour, watch his moves, read his emotions, thoughts in different situations etc etc, observe
and then we're talkin'

[proteanmix]

ok, so we'll argue.

i wrote my senior seminar on 50 cent. i have watched many of his interviews, read his lyrics, read his interviews, watched his face/behaviors/actions, his movie, etc. "50 cent " is a creation and a caricature, i'll concede the public facade of "50 cent" maybe an extrovert. curtis jackson (his real name) is an introvert.

50 writes his own lyrics, (not a ghostwriter) and he's been around for a lot longer than you think. read his older lyrics and you'll see what i'm talking about. don't just look at his persona as a rapper, he's more than that.

if you want to pm about this, i'm game.

[mimisor]

I've found an interview "all eyez on 50 cent"

I'd like to see what's people's impression, based on this interview, is he an introvert or an extrovert?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loGRW...nt%20interview


PS it is possible that I am maybe biased towards an opinion, so that's why I'd like to hear other arguments
whatever arguments, most welcomed

[Gilly]

ISTp

[mimisor]

hmm, ISTp...well, I'm not that convinced since Eminem is ISTp, we've agreed in that thread, and comparing their personalities, they are so different. What do Eminem and 50 cent have in common? Give me an example. In videos, the way they sing, I mean the style, beyond the lirycs or what the lyrics transmit in itself, I can notice is different.


@proteanmix: please post some lyrics that you think releave, in your opinion, the introverted orientation, the preoccupation on inner world or anything like that

[Smilingeyes]

alrighty so eminem is ISTp as we've come to the conclusionhttp://the16types.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1556

now you tell me how in the world these people are actually similar to each other? Because I see only differences.

They're both ISTps. And yes, they're still different. M&M is a sensory sort while 50c is a thinking style ISTp.

[mimisor]

The trouble is I don't see the Fi hidden agenda "to love" for 50 to be really an ISTp. I rather see in him the hidden agenda Fe "to be loved" and there are a lot of lyrics that can support that. Which is why I initially considered ENTp or ESTp (these two types have "to be loved"as a hidden agenda But as you guys dismissed the idea he was any sort of intiutive at all, now I become more and more convinced that he's an ESTp.


"to be loved"


from Outta control (remix)

[Verse 1: 50 Cent]
Trust me man it's ok bounce with me in slow mo
When they hear the kid in the house it's like oh no
50 got 'em locin again, they open again
Got 'em sippin on that juice and gin
You could find me in the background burnin that backwood
Stylin and stuntin doin my two step frontin
Now I'm a tell you What Em told me homey
Just lose the parental discretion's advised this is grown folk music
Now blend in with me, as I proceed to break it down
It's always off the chain man when I'm around
I play the block bumpin, it was all for the dough
I get the club jumpin, cause I'm sick with flow
You know it's sold out, like wherever I go
I jam packed the show man that's fo' sho'
I got the info you already know
Man I get it poppin in the club everybody show me love let's go


Also he has that attitude like I'm the best, I'm the hottest etc etc
just a way to obtain that Fe " to be loved" hidden agenda, imo


"God Gave Me Style" (2002)

[Chorus]
God gave me style
God gave me grace
God gave me style
God gave me grace
God put a smile on my face
Haha, God put this smile on my face
God made me shine like the sun
God make me shine like the sun
Sometimes I feel like I'm the one
Sometimes I feel like I'm the one
It ain't my fault

[Bridge]
I just reach for style, I'm hot I breaks it down
It ain't my fault, you can't break it down the way I break it down

[Verse 1- 50 Cent]
Listen you can call me what you want, black and ugly
But you can't convince me the Lord don't love me
When my cds drop, they sell the best
You call it luck, why can't it just be I'm blessed
I'm a trackstar, runnin' through life, chasin' my dream

[Verse 2- 50 Cent]
Some days, I'm in the crowd all by myself
Bunch of niggas around I'm still by myself
I drift off on a cloud by myself
Thinkin' bout nothin' more than life, what else
These days its hard to tell who really cares for me
So you when hear this song, you should say a prayer for me
I put a message in my music, hope it brightens your day
If times are hard, when you hear it, know you'll be okay
A O.G. told me God's favorites have a hard time
You out the hood, that's good now stay on the grind
I'm a sponge, knowledge and wisdom, I absorb fast
I'm in a class by myself, you do the math



from Never enough (song of Eminem's)

[50 Cent]
My flow's untouchable now you gotta face it
Uh oh, it gets worse when I go back to the basics
You go say the wrong shit and get your face split
The smell of victory, love it so much I can taste it
The spot my talk, it blaze a direct hit
Graze it, your peace talk, save it
You shit sounds dated, you're overrated
I'm obligated to study your moves then crush you mutherfuckers
If I'm the best and the worst, then God's gift is a curse
Soldier trained to destroy, you payin' attention boy?
I spit shit, slick shit, so quick you miss it
To be specific I go ballistic as hieroglyphic
My music is a drug, press play, you ain't gotta sniff it
Chew it or pop it, roll a bag of the chocolate
Get your high over and over, but you gotta cop it
When it's hot, it's hot
Your hatin' is undeniable, stop it


Beyond the lyrics, he for sure has that Fe inclination, always appear in a good disposition, open to people, not cranky like Eminem. Watch for example this video, which shows exactly my point (where 50 is invited to a tv show in France)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STdAw...arch=50%20cent

that French moderator is making fun of him to the max, making all sorts of faces, and 50 is not bothered, in fact he's always smiling, that's clearly the Fe disposition I've mentioned.

This would mean he's either in Alpha or Beta quadra, because only these two quadras have Fe as a value. So not an ISTp, in my opinion

I'd say ESTp, unless he's some sort of F type.

[Raver]

50 Cent is NO ENTP! Just look at his behaviour and his songs, ignore the other garbage. He's such an ESTp, it's not funny. He always sings about money, girls and power.

Anyways, he always talks about gaining respect from his neighbourhoood and stuff like that. He seems to be too keen to material goods, I'm not sure which type is like that.

[mimisor]

50 Cent is NO ENTP! Just look at his behaviour and his songs, ignore the other garbage. He's such an ESTp, it's not funny. He always sings about money, girls and power.

I think ESTp too

Anyways, he always talks about gaining respect from his neighbourhoood and stuff like that. He seems to be too keen to material goods, I'm not sure which type is like that.

that's dominant, which only leads us to think ESTp + the hidden agenda "to be loved"

[Raver]

50 Cent is NO ENTP! Just look at his behaviour and his songs, ignore the other garbage. He's such an ESTp, it's not funny. He always sings about money, girls and power.

I think ESTp too

Anyways, he always talks about gaining respect from his neighbourhoood and stuff like that. He seems to be too keen to material goods, I'm not sure which type is like that.

that's dominant, which only leads us to think ESTp + the hidden agenda "to be loved"

Well, ENTP have that hidden agenda too, I think.... Though, I guess ESTP fits him very well. If he used metaphors when he was singing and sang about different material in his songs, then he could of been ENTP.

[mimisor]

Well, ENTP have that hidden agenda too, I think.... Though, I guess ESTP fits him very well. If he used metaphors when he was singing and sang about different material in his songs, then he could of been ENTP.

Y&C, but he does use lots of metaphors, isn't that all rap music about?

take from here

[50 Cent]
My flow's untouchable now you gotta face it
Uh oh, it gets worse when I go back to the basics
You go say the wrong shit and get your face split
The smell of victory, love it so much I can taste it
The spot my talk, it blaze a direct hit
Graze it, your peace talk, save it
You shit sounds dated, you're overrated
I'm obligated to study your moves then crush you mutherfuckers
If I'm the best and the worst, then God's gift is a curse
Soldier trained to destroy, you payin' attention boy?
I spit shit, slick shit, so quick you miss it
To be specific I go ballistic as hieroglyphic
My music is a drug, press play, you ain't gotta sniff it
Chew it or pop it, roll a bag of the chocolate
Get your high over and over, but you gotta cop it
When it's hot, it's hot
Your hatin' is undeniable, stop it
----------------------------

And don't confound use of methaphors for Intuition (in the socionics sense). Intuition does not imply intelligence.
Take Eminem for example, he is like the master of methaphors, and he's not an intuitive, he is ISTp

[Raver]

Well, ENTP have that hidden agenda too, I think.... Though, I guess ESTP fits him very well. If he used metaphors when he was singing and sang about different material in his songs, then he could of been ENTP.

Y&C, but he does use lots of metaphors, isn't that all rap music about?

take from here

[50 Cent]
My flow's untouchable now you gotta face it
Uh oh, it gets worse when I go back to the basics
You go say the wrong shit and get your face split
The smell of victory, love it so much I can taste it
The spot my talk, it blaze a direct hit
Graze it, your peace talk, save it
You shit sounds dated, you're overrated
I'm obligated to study your moves then crush you mutherfuckers
If I'm the best and the worst, then God's gift is a curse
Soldier trained to destroy, you payin' attention boy?
I spit shit, slick shit, so quick you miss it
To be specific I go ballistic as hieroglyphic
My music is a drug, press play, you ain't gotta sniff it
Chew it or pop it, roll a bag of the chocolate
Get your high over and over, but you gotta cop it
When it's hot, it's hot
Your hatin' is undeniable, stop it
----------------------------

And don't confound use of methaphors for Intuition (in the socionics sense). Intuition does not imply intelligence.
Take Eminem for example, he is like the master of methaphors, and he's not an intuitive, he is ISTp

You are correct, intuition has nothing to do with intelligence, since they are two seperate functions. When I first introduced myself to the personality theory, I had the first impression that intuition was prediction and nothing else. I blame MBTI for brainwashing me into thinking that intelligence was linked with certain types and intuition.

Also, anybody could use metaphors, since that requires language skill more than anything else. Though intuitive metaphors tend to be more hidden compared to sensory metaphors.

I believe I got brainwashed from descriptions like these that gave me the idea that some types were more intelligent than others:

http://www.personalitypage.com/ESFP.html
http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html

Well, the INTp is actually INTj in socionics.

[WVBRY]

I think alot of rappers can be mistaken for because they come from a world which is very materialistic and where everyone has got to use a good degree of to survive. I doubt most of them are, though, its just a question of taking on an attitude because it corresponds to the cultural background you come from, and we who see everything through the prism of socionics can mistake their type for the type most valued by their entourage.

[mimisor]

You have a good point, Cheerio. And I do try to take that in consideration

But I just can't ignore the obvious "to be loved, liked whatever" tendency in him and don't really know what to do of it.

I've been thinking, 50 could actually be ISFp which would have as a creative function and i think that would work. I really can't see any other introverted type that would fit him. That is if he was indeed an introvert.

[Jeremy1988]

This is purely conjecture, but many of the things he says himself actually imply to me that he is a Judging type. He may seem like a Perceptive, but his life circumstances probably forced him to develop that way, at least partly. And most of his music probably reflects that part of his life. Many of his personal viewpoints and comments that I've read, seem to actually imply to me an ESTj. He takes firm stances, looks at past patterns of behavior to make points, and seems to see the value of consistancy. To be honest, I don't know a whole lot about him, and this opinion is more of a first impression than anything else. One point I would like to make is that some of his values might differ from a normal ESTj, as he was conditioned in a very criminal atmosphere as a child.

[WVBRY]

Its funny, my first intsinctive guess for 50 cent's type was actually ESTj, and for Eminem ENTj.

[mimisor]

Its funny, my first intsinctive guess for 50 cent's type was actually ESTj, and for Eminem ENTj.

Bullshit..people, really..

This picture shows most evidently why is 50 a Perceptive type




Now...we know Judging types move mechanically, Perceptive types move fluidly. You guys are wise enough to see there's no way a Judging person would adopt that posture, more so when being photographed. A Judging type would look more stiff, staying straight in picture.

He looks so much like this ISFp classmate, that I can't ignore, and i mean the movements when simply walking

[So Crazy]

Seriously, what type might he be?

[strrrng]

hard to say....seemingly SP, possibly I

[Megan]

I am convinced that he is an ISFp. I think a lot of rappers are ISFps.