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    Default An arguement between my roommates:

    Person 1 is playing with pet rats on the sofa in his shared apartment. Unbeknownst to him, the rats shit a few drops while he is eating breakfast. Person 2, his roommate, comes home to find rat droppings on the couch, near where he usually sits. Person 2 notifies person 1, and asks that he clean it up. Person 1 removes the turdlettes from the sofa, wraps them in a paper towel, and throws them away.

    2 politely asks 1 to also find some method of disinfecting the couch, because, hey, it's shit. 1 refuses, and offers that rat shit is sterile and has virtually no scent, that things like this happen all the time, and that it can hardly cause any problems whatsoever. 2 is confused at 1's refusal to do something that he sees as obviously necessary, and insists, somewhat more forcefully, that it is person 1's responsibility to clean up the mess that he made in their shared space, and do it completely. 1 refuses, citing that the couch belongs to him, and that there are virtually zero possible consequences for not sterilizing; he says that if it bothers 2 so much, he should disinfect it himself.

    A twelve-hour mini feud results, with periodic bickering, subtle power plays, and some minor passive aggression. The spot remains unsterilized.

    The next morning, 1 goes to the bathroom and finds that there is no toilette paper in the holder. He opens the door and mock-sheepishly asks 2 if he has an extra roll in his bathroom. 2 snickers and walks into his bathroom, gets a roll from beneath the sink, and stands outside the door. He delivers a well-placed ultimatum: 1 can have the tp only if he is willing to disinfect the couch. 1 laughs, mocks him, and accepts the offer.

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    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Types?
    Hmm. I would say that they're both in an Ni/Se quadra, and probably Beta.
    1 is most likely Se ego. I'm going to say LSI.
    2 could be...EIE or SLE.
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    One of them is definably INFp ... INFps tend to make a big deal about "being fair" and at the greatest extent pull bullshit games we they are constantly trying to equalize interactions out.

    I had a roommate who was INFp and acted that way. I wanted to choke the bastard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcnew View Post
    One of them is definably INFp ... INFps tend to make a big deal about "being fair" and at the greatest extent pull bullshit games we there are constantly trying to equalize interactions out.

    I had a roommate who was INFp and acted that way. I wanted to choke the bastard.
    Why is "being fair" bad? And INFps aren't the only type who care about that. And another reason why I still can't see you as INFJ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Why is "being fair" bad? And INFps aren't the only type who care about that. And another reason why I still can't see you as INFJ...
    Being fair isn't bad ... it can be evil when being fair means someone trying to force an opinion on another, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcnew View Post
    Being fair isn't bad ... it can be evil when being fair means someone trying to force an opinion on another, however.
    those are 2 separate issues. and, wow, that's the first thing you've said that's surprisingly EII.
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    Also, I've had plenty of nightmare roommates, and I especially would not resort to ultimatums like that because people who have already come across as petty to me are likely to do even pettier shit in reprisal. I don't know how much of this story can be attributed to type, as opposed to simple immaturity.
    I initially thought it was immaturity, too. It can not be. It is not just simple immaturity ... for peat sakes, the INFp guy I knew was 45 years old and was acting the way Gilly described one of his roommates. Most people learn something about life about that time. Apparently INFps stay really youthful acting even around middle age.

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    I shared a room with a guy, 2 seperate beds btw, who put his fist through the window in the middle of the night and didn't remember. Another time he started screaming and punching at random things in the room. These days I sleep alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Person 1 is playing with pet rats on the sofa in his shared apartment. Unbeknownst to him, the rats shit a few drops while he is eating breakfast. Person 2, his roommate, comes home to find rat droppings on the couch, near where he usually sits. Person 2 notifies person 1, and asks that he clean it up. Person 1 removes the turdlettes from the sofa, wraps them in a paper towel, and throws them away.

    2 politely asks 1 to also find some method of disinfecting the couch, because, hey, it's shit. 1 refuses, and offers that rat shit is sterile and has virtually no scent, that things like this happen all the time, and that it can hardly cause any problems whatsoever. 2 is confused at 1's refusal to do something that he sees as obviously necessary, and insists, somewhat more forcefully, that it is person 1's responsibility to clean up the mess that he made in their shared space, and do it completely. 1 refuses, citing that the couch belongs to him, and that there are virtually zero possible consequences for not sterilizing; he says that if it bothers 2 so much, he should disinfect it himself.

    A twelve-hour mini feud results, with periodic bickering, subtle power plays, and some minor passive aggression. The spot remains unsterilized.

    The next morning, 1 goes to the bathroom and finds that there is no toilette paper in the holder. He opens the door and mock-sheepishly asks 2 if he has an extra roll in his bathroom. 2 snickers and walks into his bathroom, gets a roll from beneath the sink, and stands outside the door. He delivers a well-placed ultimatum: 1 can have the tp only if he is willing to disinfect the couch. 1 laughs, mocks him, and accepts the offer.

    Types?
    LOL!! That sounds like the sort of arguments I pull with my ILI dad all the time (minus the rat poo). He's so funny when he's angry, but I think he disagrees on that point. Love it.

    (I would def. be person #1 in this scenario)
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    While personally, I know mouse/rat shit isn't really a big deal so after the initial clean up I wouldn't care myself. But the thing is... There are however many people who are have a germ phobia that I'd respect if it were my rat or whatever that shit on the couch (this would never happen ftr). It's a respect thing to me though, If I were in that situation, if they didn't disinfect or whatever, I'd pick a good time to make sure and rub that cushion in their face later on, how mad could they get, there wasn't really anything there to worry about was there? After a little bit of time I'd probably forget all about it and sit there anyway.

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    Well now that there has been some debate, I will reveal that person 1 is me, probably EIE, and 2 is my roommate, most likely LSI; if not, then SLE.

    For the record rat turds are more sterile than cooked meat; these same rats belong to my sister and they shit all over her and her husband's couch, living area, and even on the benches around their dinner table; he is a major germophobe, and doesn't care at all. Whatever reasons someone might give for "it's good to be clean" or whatever, there was absolutely not real reason to clean beyond picking up the dry turds themselves.

    Personally I saw this as a conflict between his Ti+Si and my Te+Se.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Well now that there has been some debate, I will reveal that person 1 is me, probably EIE, and 2 is my roommate, most likely LSI; if not, then SLE.

    For the record rat turds are more sterile than cooked meat; these same rats belong to my sister and they shit all over her and her husband's couch, living area, and even on the benches around their dinner table; he is a major germophobe, and doesn't care at all. Whatever reasons someone might give for "it's good to be clean" or whatever, there was absolutely not real reason to clean beyond picking up the dry turds themselves.

    Personally I saw this as a conflict between his Ti+Si and my Te+Se.
    I've had almost the exact same situation happen with myself and my LSI friend (albeit not with rat shit). He freaked out and wanted to make sure everything was spotless clean and I was like, "who cares?" (using slightly more agressive wording). Could the conflict be Ne vs Se?

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    I've often wondered if I was EIE, but then I get all emo and don't want to talk to anyone for days.
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    I don't think it could possibly have anything to do with Ne; I think it's mostly a Ti vs Te thing.

    Bee, I'm the same way. EIEs probably have the greatest variation in behavior of any type, and tend to come in the most "flavors," if you will
    But, for a certainty, back then,
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    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Under cerulean skies...

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    They are Beta, probably INFps ...

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