dbmmama's type possibilities

[redbaron]

Have your ESE husband/slave cook something for ya.

he's at work, silly. but on the weekends he does

[Park]

he's at work, silly. but on the weekends he does

ok, then stay hungry.

[redbaron]

ok, then stay hungry.

I'm making dinner. I'm not a GREAT cook, but I'm competent.

[Park]

I'm making dinner. I'm not a GREAT cook, but I'm competent.

I would send you some of my homemade garlic bread, but I don't play friends with married women, it can be dangerous. I can has more broken bones.

[redbaron]

I would send you some of my homemade garlic bread, but I don't play friends with married women, it can be dangerous. I can has more broken bones.

well I like garlic bread. then again, I'll eat almost anything. I love food and I appreciate really good food but I also like mediocre food like cereal.

[redbaron]

I would send you some of my homemade garlic bread, but I don't play friends with married women, it can be dangerous. I can has more broken bones.

how does being friends with a married woman = broken bones? it's fine if you're just friends.

[Park]

how does being friends with a married woman = broken bones? it's fine if you're just friends.

It isn't fine when their better half thinks otherwise /assumes there's more. And if he is at least a little as paranoid as cracka, I don't doubt the bone breakage will follow, lol.

(i was joking previously, btw)

[redbaron]

It isn't fine when their better half thinks otherwise /assumes there's more. And if he is at least a little as paranoid as cracka, I don't doubt the bone breakage will follow, lol.

(i was joking previously, btw)

be nice to cracka. you think he's paranoid? nah.

[Park]

be nice to cracka.

Or what? I 'll get my bones broken? Besides, have I really been anything but nice to him?

you think he's paranoid? nah.

Again, I was joking. But if you want to have my real opinion, yeah, I do think he is (or at least "comes off" as) a little paranoid in his reactions online.

[Ritella]

What about wholewheat flour tortillas or roasted garlic bread with parmesan?

yum, that's exactly my kind of food. and whoever's cooking is my kind of guy.

Again, I was joking. But if you want to have my real opinion, yeah, I do think he is (or at least "comes off" as) a little paranoid in his reactions online.

Cracka, please comment on the extent of your paranoia. I think that should be fairly elucidating.

[Park]

yum, that's exactly my kind of food. and whoever's cooking is my kind of guy.

I love how you inspire the chef in me.

[macysmama]

What about LSI or EIE?

I really want to help, but I have 3 little ones all day and dinner to cook tonight. I don't actually know what to say or describe to you guys to help. I could tell you what about a few possible types she does/doesn't do, but it will take me time. So I'm not sure when I will get it posted.
As far as temperments go, she seems like an EP, very impulsive in the moment, but not a spontaneous person at all. Does that make sense online? hehe

db's little sis

Gotta go before dinner burns!

[crazedrat]

...don't want to be an ass, but you seem to know very little about socionics. I assume she tested as ESE, and so that's why she believes she's ESE, right?

[Joy]

No, and she doesn't believe she's ESE. She never has. Of all of the types she's seriously considered, ESE is not one of them (at least not that I know of). Why? Because it doesn't make sense. She does not have a Ni PoLR.

[crazedrat]

When we were discussing ESE on the Ni polr thread which you referenced, you will notice she ~quotes something I said about ESE~, then she says ~hey, anyone who thinks that about ME is just dead wrong~. So from this comment, I think I'm safe in assuming she believes she's ESE, and that you are completely wrong; and that you are also speaking before you have the facts, as usual (this sort of crap is a complete waste of my time).

It's slightly possible I've mistyped both my grandma and this girl in science class I was referring to as ESE-Si. They all really remind me of David Bowie. Not sure what type he is, either. Fe, IMO, is obvious in her.
I'd really like to hear her opinion on all of this, it's really needed.
Again not to insult her sister, but she seems not to know squat about socionics. If I'm not mistaken she's brand new to the whole thing.
Ni polr manifests itself alot differently for an ESE-Si then it does for an ESE-Fe.
Elaboration from you on why exactly she isn't Ni polr is needed in a scenario such as this where you make a claim, and it's part of a debate.

[strrrng]

No, and she doesn't believe she's ESE. She never has. Of all of the types she's seriously considered, ESE is not one of them (at least not that I know of). Why? Because it doesn't make sense. She does not have a Ni PoLR.

And neither do you

[strrrng]

When we were discussing ESE on the Ni polr thread which you referenced, you will notice she ~quotes something I said about ESE~, then she says ~hey, anyone who thinks that about ME is just dead wrong~. So from this comment, I think I'm safe in assuming she believes she's ESE, and that you are completely wrong.

This seems to be her prominent behavioral pattern, socially. Whether it's adding a "+10 " to someone's sentiment, or agreeing about a specific type's behavior in reference to herself, it seems like she comes up with a lot of those kinds of positions and arguments on the spot. Like in the old thread, Allie basically compiled an argument on why she was ESFj, and instead of pointing out what was wrong with it, she resorted to some "I don't want to deal with this immaturity, you will learn someday" crap, soon after which she took a break from the forum, only to return as a self-typed ESTp (lol) with a signature reading "SLE...cause you don't fuckin know me irl, yea?" Point being, it's all a series of disparate, facile attempts aimed at very exigent goals revolving around proving a specific idea. Si-ESFj seems to work with this because of the more unfiltered way in which P subtypes tend to process information, but also the nature of unfocused Ne in ESFjs, serving as some 'light in the distance' where anything can be anything, and more often than not, erroneous connections are made between unrelated things (inability to see the implicit context underpinning them -- Ni polr).

[crazedrat]

Well put strrrng, and ESE-Si is now overtly clear to me.
And now that I think about it, the other ESE-Sis I referenced (grandma, girl in sci class) both did the things you're talking about. Having a specific thought or potential in mind which seems to exist as an invulnerable ideal, and which things must be altered in order to support.

The girl in science class would frown upon people slacking off; or, in my case, even the sarcastic insinuation of slacking / general demeanor of disenchantment seemed to earn me the label of 'sloth, lacky'. she almost treated me like I was a loose cannon; and I seemed to naturally play up to being one. But despite all this, she had a very democratic part to her personality as well.

[strrrng]

Well put strrrng, and ESE-Si is now overtly clear to me.
And now that I think about it, the other ESE-Sis I referenced (grandma, girl in sci class) both did the things you're talking about. Having a specific thought or potential in mind which seems to exist as an invulnerable ideal, and which things must be altered in order to support.

Thanks. And yeah, that makes sense. They naturally size everything up as part of an explicit, continuous Si field, and from there they seem to sort of attempt to winnow the potentiality of objects within that field. The problem is, they do this incessantly and in an unfocused manner, so while exploring these 'abstract' variables to such a degree may add to the saturation of their field, a lot of it ends up as desultory permutating (i.e. my mom will relay the most innocuous details, as if by doing so she is adding something to the perception, when to me it is pointless).

[Joy]

When we were discussing ESE on the Ni polr thread which you referenced, you will notice she ~quotes something I said about ESE~, then she says ~hey, anyone who thinks that about ME is just dead wrong~.

She was saying anyone who thinks she has a Ni PoLR is dead wrong, and I do know for a fact that this is what she meant as she and I have had many PM conversations the entire time she's been here, and we did talk about this recent Ni PoLR business.

Fe, IMO, is obvious in her.

No one's disputing her focus on Fe. The question is whether she's Fe dominant or not.

I'd really like to hear her opinion on all of this, it's really needed.

Don't hold your breath.

Elaboration from you on why exactly she isn't Ni polr is needed in a scenario such as this where you make a claim, and it's part of a debate.

1.) I've already given that.
2.) In light of recent communications with her, there's no need to continue this conversation. I'm done.

[redbaron]

So, Joy, in your opinion is she LIE? I'm interested in what you think.

[Joy]

SEE is currently my top choice, but I still think any of the types on my list are possible. LIE is definitely more likely than ESE though. She also seems more likely to be an extrovert than introvert, overall. Another point that is perhaps worth mentioning is that one of the members that she seems to have the warmest interactions with is Winterpark. If we're to assume that he's SLI, this could be viewed as evidence against EIE. In any case, she needs to "awaken" her ego (see Rick's article) a bit before her type will be apparent enough to type her with any degree of certainty.

[redbaron]

SEE is currently my top choice, but I still think any of the types on my list are possible. LIE is definitely more likely than ESE though. She also seems more likely to be an extrovert than introvert, overall. Another point that is perhaps worth mentioning is that one of the members that she seems to have the warmest interactions with is Winterpark. If we're to assume that he's SLI, this could be viewed as evidence against EIE. In any case, she needs to "awaken" her ego (see Rick's article) a bit before her type will be apparent enough to type her with any degree of certainty.

yeah I noticed that. Hmmm. okay. thanks

[crazedrat]

Advice for any newcomers:
Do not ask Joy what type you are. And under no circumstances enter into private PM sessions with her