Do you consider yourself to be more physically attractive than the average person?

[suedehead]

Doesn't contradict anything I said. She isn't attracted to him in a meaningful way and likely gets her needs met outside of her wholly pragmatic relationship

[Raver]

Generally speaking, I think I am average looking. I can look above or below average depending on how well I take care of myself and a woman's personal taste.

[dot]

@Cassandra I know what you mean when you say these things and I think in some specific cases I would agree with you, but these are heavy stereotypes and most people in reality just don't work the cliché way. If a guy is fugly for me, I would never consider dating him.
Like I definitely could see myself dating someone whom I wasn't suuuper attracted to in the beginning but with whom I had a good chemistry and everything else being pretty much good. But there are still many cases where I would never date someone, because they turn me off by their way of being or their looks. No matter if they are rich or not.

[Attis]

Nope.

[Delilah]

The disadvantage of having lived in many different countries is that now i'm aware of attractiveness standards in all of these countries so i have to get an amalgamate so it would appear overall it takes a hit on my self-confidence on the other hand i can pick the ones that also reward my personality so the two can go together; all in all pretty darn average.

[Pallas]

Have you seen the various "Average Faces" compilations? Physical attractiveness seems to mean being as close to average as possible, and in that case absolutely no one can be more physically attractive than hypothetical Mr. and Miss Average, only equal at best.

[Pallas]

Most of us think that we are better than we actually are — not just physically, but in every way.

That's because you kind of have to start out by believing that you're better in order to actually become better. That, or you have to be oblivious to where you are now, but that's nearly impossible in this day and age. It's fake-it-til-you-make-it really. Like if someone is an awful singer, and everyone tells them that they're awful, but they think they're good and they go take lessons from a professional instructor because that's what you ought to do if you're good, they could go on to be a Broadway singer or an opera singer or something. Or not, but if they never deluded themself at all, they'd have no chance of becoming any good.

[GuavaDrunk]

Strictly speaking, you can both accept that you're not currently good at something AND believe that you can improve at that thing. That seems best to me.

[ApeironStella]

Nah. And honestly, I am a lot more comfortable that way- I don't want to be seen as attractive since that would make it all the more likely to have all the "crush" and "dating" mess (even the idea of someone finding me sexually attractive makes my stomach churn) and also, country I live in really isn't safe for attractive women by now.

[flames]

LIE-ESI (I know you think she is SEE tho )

[Great]

Jay-Z isn't ugly... he ain't pretty but he isn't ugly.

As for me, I've been called "pretty" "cute" and "ugly" so average?

[Olimpia]

Jay-Z isn't ugly... he ain't pretty but he isn't ugly.

I used the example of Jay-Z and Beyoncé because she is clearly much more physically attractive than he is, but she's still very much into him.

[Pallas]

Jay-Z isn't ugly... he ain't pretty but he isn't ugly.

As for me, I've been called "pretty" "cute" and "ugly" so average?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I'm also pretty sure people largely define beauty based on themselves and that explains the poll results. I mean people tend to prefer their own race, cultural group, etc. barring other factors (such as being a weeaboo. Weeaboos are as old as time). So most people are probably above average by their own standards, but not when you combine the whole world's standards together.

[huiheiwufhawriuhg]

Beauty is so subjective... I dislike and do everything that is in my power to not be a beauty stereotype and I've never felt attracted to stereotypically good looking people. I think of myself as an above avarage, but never really good enough.

[flames]

There are things about me I would tweak, but I think I'm mostly average, possibly above average with some things but it's also dependent on someone else's (and my own) subjectivity. I think my personality is the biggest winner.

[suedehead]

I don't think behavior/demeanor/lifestyle matters much when it comes to attracting women. If you're hot, even the most pretentious Stacey will accept an invitation to watch harem anime with you in your parents' basement just for the opportunity to jump your bones.

[Olimpia]

Guy A is above average in looks. Has no "game", is incredibly boring, shy, submissive/doormat, has nothing worthwhile to say.
Guy B is below average in looks. Is incredibly witty, driven, confident, passionate, smooth, has great "game".
Guy C is average.

Now guess which guy will do the best with straight women.

 

It actually depends on how hot the woman is and whether she is looking for something short term or long term.

Guy A will make the best first impression, for as long as he doesn't open his mouth and doesn't have poor body language. Girls who are "cute" will flock to him like crazy (at first). Girls who are average or below will have sex with him without a second thought, especially if they meet him in a club environment or similar. No woman will be happy with him in a serious long-term relationship (unless she's significantly below average). The only kind of woman who'd date him long-term is gonna be rather dominant, she'll "wear the pants"; often times this kind of woman wants a guy to fit her image of a good-looking, successful couple – that's the kind of couple where the female is Internet-famous and posing with her hot bf everywhere on social media, but in private resents him and is annoyed by him constantly. The woman who dates this guy long-term or marries him can be hot or actually below average; either way, she'll have sort of masculinized personality traits and be more dominant than average.

Guy B will make the worst first impression, but once he opens his mouth and engages people he will be the most attractive in interactions. Girls who are "cute" or "hot" will overlook or ignore him at first. Girls who are below average will be attracted to him, but become insecure once it becomes apparent how confident and dominant he is. Girls who are "hot" will be confused and then intrigued by the fact their beauty doesn't faze him at all. This guy is the best long-term relationship material of those three guys. This guy is the one who will be dating very attractive women, and people ask themselves "What does she see in him?". The women are usually very devoted to this guy.

 

Guy C will have no set first impression; it will primarily depend on his outfit or mood that day. He'll attract below average, average, and some "cute" girls regularly; girls who are "hot" may be interested once in a while and "give him a chance", but they'll quickly discover that he's just average and not particularly interesting. He can more or less easily have sex with below average women; with average women it would maybe take a drink or two; with "cute" girls he'd have to put in some more work, like go on a date or more. Unless he works on his personality and/or status or finances, the "hot" chick will elude him.

All in all, the answer reveals that personality matters more when it comes to truly attracting and satisfying a "hot" straight woman for the long-term.

[suedehead]

Don't care about LTRs - I'm sx-last and extremely autistic/introverted so I have no desire for companionship. Those girls are with them for their money and withhold sex from them whenever they can. guy A hands down get the best, most enthusiastic sex out of women in their prime

[suedehead]

I agree with aspects of this. Tbh, I actually think that this kind of mindset is rather healthy if it's not overtly extreme. It's a good thing to view yourself highly (like appearance & intelligence) and helps with personal self worth and self-esteem, as opposed to being far on the opposite side of the spectrum like those who suffer from body dysmorphia.

The guy with "body dysmorphia" is more likely to get life-improving plastic surgery

[Olimpia]

[suedehead]

he's a philistine who didn't do enough research

[Olimpia]

All those guys with body dysmorphia try to look like a Ken doll...

[Muddy]

Honestly I hope looks do matter a lot then "game" because I am pretty much unable to get personal and seal deals in most circumstances because of how weird and unnatural it feels to me for whatever reason. It least with looks I feel like I can take a more straight-forward path towards improving them then I can with game and personality, plus my 6'5 height is a huge built-in perk when it comes to looks.

[xerx]

eh, most people (both men and women) would look healthy and attractive enough if they just took care of themselves. You reaaally don't need to look like a plastic doll to get laid.

[suedehead]

Kind of legit for women, who have the benefit of make-up and the whole "butterface" phenomenon, but not for men. Male physical attractiveness is mainly based on traits that you have to go under the knife to achieve if your genetics weren't kind to you. The typical cute girl is a bloated potato compared to the average good looking guy.

[Olimpia]

eh, most people (both men and women) would look healthy and attractive enough if they just took care of themselves. You reaaally don't need to look like a plastic doll to get laid.

^ This.
Haha.

[suedehead]

If you're average-looking/ugly, you should avoid looking like you put more than a perfunctory effort into your appearance. There's nothing more embarrassing than being dressed like a poor imitation of someone out of a GQ spread just to be upstaged by a handsome guy in a roomy patriots jersey and sweat pants

[The Reality Denialist]

**Pays zero attention to it**

I prefer not to be part of it. I actually did my best as teenager to be as repulsive as I could without major trouble (people 'd point it out).

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

suedehead, wide noses actually turn me on tho. you can do piggy and animalistic things with them.

jay Z is actually pretty hot to me. he looks animalistic and intimidating and barbaric and that's gonna obviously turn a lot of women/gay guys on. pure non feeling animalism to counter balance their emotionality. i mean im not crazy about him or anything in the slightest... but it's not hard at all to see what she'd see in him.

pure modelling looks are okay but there's so much more to it. it's just more of this forward 'i'm gonna spit on this right now because it's mine' attitude.

[darya]

suedehead, wide noses actually turn me on tho. you can do piggy and animalistic things with them.

jay Z is actually pretty hot to me. he looks animalistic and intimidating and barbaric and that's gonna obviously turn a lot of women/gay guys on. pure non feeling animalism to counter balance their emotionality. i mean im not crazy about him or anything in the slightest... but it's not hard at all to see what she'd see in him.

pure modelling looks are okay but there's so much more to it. it's just more of this forward 'i'm gonna spit on this right now because it's mine' attitude.

Yup, jay z actually is pretty hot. He shouldn't be in theory, but he is.

[jessica129]

Jay-z looks like a claymation character.

[Resonare]

Well, I've been told I'm average looking by my best guy friends before and my experiences seem to match up too. I think I've only gotten a "handsome" compliment twice before and both times were from male friends as well lol.

[Jeremy8419]

Yeah. I've never had an issue with women as far as looks go, but I'm a dude so its also not considered as important.

[Not A Communist Shill]

Most people are at least a 7 out of 10, especially myself.

[Leader]

No

[Jeremy8419]

Most people are at least a 7 out of 10, especially myself.

Got to the end of that last line. Wasn't what I expected.

[Tonatiuh]

Hum, I think my face is like a 7. I look a lot more tame / innocent than I actually am, and my voice is pretty soft. However there's a fire to my gaze. I guess my height and well defined muscle tone gives me some advantage if I am on the prowl for some tail.

[MissDucki]

I consider myself average personally. I think I am attractive in my own unique way. Well…no full stop I do think I’m attractive but not in a main stream way or objective view way. I think I’m attractive cause I’m me.

[14Raptor19]

Shedding light on the human figure is more of a task for artists than philosophers. Braving tempests and diverting blizzards is volt tackle soda pop pressing the stick of dizzy copies to run the table.

Basically, chaos control is how the shadow is sexy.

[Averroes]

Nope. I’m too skinny and have weird facial proportions