Clubs - ST, NF, NT SF

[Hugo]

Does anybody have a good description of each club? Are club descriptions helpful in identifying types?

[CuriousSoul]

Dmitri Lytov is apparently translating an article on the clubs, but it will take some time. The clubs are supposed to be correlated with the types of interests people have. They can be useful in typing, but they can be misleading too. I would not make too much out of them.

[Hugo]

Is this description accurate?

NT
Theoretical

NF
Psychology

ST
Practical

SF
Human needs

[Koneko]

It looks accurate enough ^^.

The official one I think it's:

NT: Scientific
ST: Pragmatic
NF: Humanitarian
SF: Social

But I like the "Psychological" one for NF , would let -evil-biased- NF like me on the club too

[Hugo]

This is what I have come up with:

Theory - and
Peoples needs - and
Practical - and
Ideal - and


Therefore:

ENTp + INTj are Theoretical and Idealistic
ENTj + INTp are Theoretical and Practical

ESFj + ISFp are Peoples needs and Idealistic
ESFp + ISFj are Peoples needs and Practical

ENFj + INFp are Idealistic and Theoretical
ENFp + INFj are Idealistic and Peoples needs

ESTj + ISTp are Practical and People needs
ESTp + ISTj are Practical and Theoretical


Therefore, on the whole:

Alpha Quadra is Idealistic
Beta Quadra is Theoretical
Gamma Quadra is Practical
Delta Quadra is concerned with Peoples needs

[science as magic]

Therefore, on the whole:

Alpha Quadra is Idealistic
Beta Quadra is Theoretical
Gamma Quadra is Practical
Delta Quadra is concerned with Peoples needs

If your theory is correct you left some stuff out:

Alpha is NOT Practical
Beta is NOT concerned with People's needs
Gamma is NOT idealistic
Delta is NOT theorhetical

I think you are mixing assumptions though and are quite far from where you mean to be.

[ClownsandEntropy]

According to Wikisocion, "typical examples of this club [NT] are enthusiasts of science fiction, role-play games, groups of political discussions, and the like." However, at the same time, NTs are not supposed to be viewed as "nerds", so the question is: What are the features of a club, and what aren't the features? Are the Wikisocion descriptions all valid and complete?

[krieger]

However, at the same time, NTs are not supposed to be viewed as "nerds"

its just them being politically correct.

[Pa3s]

I don´t know if this is actually useful or if it was proposed before, but I often thought some good descriptions of the two sub-groups of a club (like alpha & gamma SF) would be nice. It should mainly contain the facts which show the differences of course. It often happens that someone isn´t sure to what quadra they belong, even if they might be opposed. I personally know some facts about both NT groups, but much less about SF, NF and ST so I guess this would help me typing someone. What do you think?

[Aiss]

Gamma NT/Alpha NT and such are often used here in practice, but I don't think they make sense as sub-clubs. The idea here is that they expand on what is club-related, while most "divide the club" attempts try to limit it and end up a bunch of false stereotypes. Most notably within NT club so far, but somehow I don't think it would work better for others.