A very simple quotation.ISFj's can be like total pushovers at times. Definitely moreso than the INFj.
I'm not going to get into explaining this, just tell what you think about the quote.
A very simple quotation.ISFj's can be like total pushovers at times. Definitely moreso than the INFj.
I'm not going to get into explaining this, just tell what you think about the quote.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
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Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Maybe what UDP is referring to is the fact that an EII, with Se PoLR won't always realise when they're fighting a 'losing battle' and will persist, whilst the ESI will revise their position and back-down 'strategically' in line with assessing the 'conditions of battle' via their Se-creative. I do think sometimes EIIs persist where ESIs desist, but I don't think that should necessary be taken as the ESI being 'more of a pushover'.
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I think you mean, "Maybe what whoever wrote that quote is referring to..."? I don't think it's been made clear yet who wrote that, and I'm thinking the anonymity is intentional so as to focus on the content.
Anyway, generally speaking, I wouldn't say that an ISFj is going to be more of a pushover than an INFj, though I think it would probably depend on the circumstances.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
Actually, what this thread was about is that someone who, imo, doesn't understand socionics properly, said the quote in the original post. I was going to use this thread as a means to show various opinions on the matter.
I wasn't implying anything myself about the original quote, what it meant, or whether it was true or false.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
UDP, please stop! I don't know what it is. Maybe the avatar. It all just seems ridiculous.
Ummmm....about the quote.
I don't think either INFJs/ISFJs are push-overs. These are types who basically do everything according to their "system." They're not exactly "go with the flow" people. If you're talking about more physically assertive situations, maybe INFJs seem more weak. If you're talking about shooting around ideas in a meeting, maybe ISFJs seem more weak. I don't really see "pushover" though.
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Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...