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    Talking Alpha Fictional Characters in Movies and Literature

    I'm getting kind of tired of all the aggresive Se/Ni romances I'm seeing lately in TV/Film. What are some Alpha, or even just general Ne/Si romances out there right now?

    What I can think of:
    Jim/Pam on the Office
    A lot of the couples in french New Wave films from the 60s
    Peter/Joanna on office space
    ILE - Ti.

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    mebe ...

    Amelie
    Before Sunrise
    Good Will Hunting
    Garden State
    It's a Wonderful Life
    Elizabethtown
    "Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."

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    Wedding Daze

    The Last Kiss

    (former one is more Alpha)



    ps. And Bridget Jones of course.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Wedding Daze

    The Last Kiss

    (former one is more Alpha)



    ps. And Bridget Jones of course.
    why Bridget Jones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    why Bridget Jones?
    Because it's Ne/Si, it has romance and it's a great movie. Bridget and Mark are IEE and SLI respectively.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    A very nice and laid back (for some potentially boring) Si/Ne film I recently saw is My Blueberry Nights. It doesn't have a lot of romance in it but it has Norah Jones and Jude Law in the main roles.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Because it's Ne/Si, it has romance and it's a great movie. Bridget and Mark are IEE and SLI respectively.
    oh, Ne/Si - right ... I forgot about Delta for a sec :-p
    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    A very nice and laid back Si/Ne film I recently saw is My Blueberry Nights. It doesn't have a lot of romance in it but it has Norah Jones and Jude Law in the main roles.
    yeah - that movie was rather nice - do you think Norah played an SLI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    mebe ...

    Amelie

    Before Sunrise
    Good Will Hunting
    Garden State
    It's a Wonderful Life
    Elizabethtown
    <3 <3 <3

    I love those!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    mebe ...

    Amelie
    Before Sunrise
    Good Will Hunting
    Garden State
    It's a Wonderful Life
    Elizabethtown
    Seen most of those, Amelie is one of my favorites.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    A very nice and laid back (for some potentially boring) Si/Ne film I recently saw is My Blueberry Nights. It doesn't have a lot of romance in it but it has Norah Jones and Jude Law in the main roles.
    Blueberry nights was great, good call.

    Can anyone think of some TV series?
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    Quote Originally Posted by diljs View Post

    Can anyone think of some TV series?
    Turk and Carla on scrubs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Turk and Carla on scrubs?
    Yeah, ESFj (Turk) and ENTp (Carla) seems right for them. But does anyone else think Scrubs as a whole seems more Delta? IDK if that's all that valid, but it just seems that way to me. And I mean Delta Fi. Gross.

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    Archer's Dr. Krieger; INTj:








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    Quote Originally Posted by krieger View Post
    Archer's Dr. Krieger; INTj:







    Krieger's the best

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    So random, in a weird, irritating way.
    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    Nanase Yoshi from 1bitHeart gives some real Alpha quadra vibe, with some strong 9 core (972 tritype, I assume, as he is rather flighty and has some core 9 issues, but also if asked to help/sees someone troubled looking for help often helps out, though unless asked for it or if not literally told to make friends by Misane, he just avoids people and spends his time doing his own thing. Possible 9w1 as has problems with blaming himself than others, some level of social code to hold up to feeling and has hazier sense of self/anger than 9w8. Probs sx last but not sure if sp/so or so/sp) but can't quite tell if he is an LII, ILE or SEI. Values Si/Ne or Se/Ni, he would be content just staying home and relaxing, his Fi is sort of miserable honestly, his understanding of ethics/human relationships in general is rather bad, so I guess most likely a rather mellow due to 9ness ILE (most likely H subtype in DCNH) or LII, can see either case honestly.

    Sees the world and people as data he can see around them, he doesn't really "get to know" people, he often times ends up cutting straight into a problem of others, mostly goes along with whatever other has in mind even if he points out absurdity of other's actions, has a "nice, but something off you can't quite put a finger on" vibe, often times not aware why what he just said or did was not socially correct, character development is him learning to accept his own feelings and being to actually start to share it with others than hiding/rejecting himself and learning to develop real bonds with others. Most likely ILE after saying all that, but can't shake off the "lack of Se role" vibe with him, so hm.

    Edit: Most likely ILE, with his love interest Misane being a Si base, most likely SEI but gotta check her again once home, as she persistently keeps following him, wanting him to stay and be weird with him together than him being alone. Most likely 6w5 for her, so huh. She didn't quite give Fe PoLR vibe from what I recall though, but hm.
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    Possibly the "Teacher" from Alice Mare, yet again another Miwashiba game. He certainly has Ne/Si than Ni/Se, he is fairly lenient with the children at the mansion, rules he placed basically boils down to "don't hurt others, go to bed at a decent hour, show up for the meal, other than that do whatever you want and tell me anything you want I can afford". Possible Fi blindspot as his main problem, like with Mikado (this seems to be a common pattern showing up in Miwashiba's games actually, a "mentor" big brotherly figure who is smart but also sort of weird and has some guilt issues) he has trouble perceiving others' affection towards himself and vice-versa, while actively ending up attending to needs of children there as he studies their behaviour, which was main reason he took them in but he actually pretty genuinely cares about them.

    He is fairly clumsy and prone to zone out sometimes even in the middle of conversation if something makes him think, hard to snap out of thinking mode and get his attention at those times. Fairly mild, though apparently scary when you manage to anger him. Pretty messy when it comes to taking care of himself and his surroundings, and in general is dismissive of taking care of his own body. He has trouble in general awareness of his surroundings, also says that he is honestly still a child as being an adult is knowing things for certain, which he doesn't. Other characters describe his expressions childlike as well.

    Probably an ILE with Miwashiba's general 9-vibe with her protags/deutrogonists added to him (as with Mikado) but could see LII-Ne working too. His Fi is worse than general LIIs though, and added to his dislike for opening up to anyone, and troubles perceiving personal closeness/affection, possibly Fi PoLR is likelier than Se PoLR.





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    LII:

    The Fly - Seth Brundle
    Dead Ringers- Beverly Mantle
    The Girlfriend Experience (season 1) - Christine Reade

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    LII:

    The Fly - Seth Brundle
    I agree that he is most likely LII, based on what I can remember of that movie.

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    Is Veronica his dual, or maybe his activity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyber View Post
    Is Veronica his dual, or maybe his activity?
    I don't think that Veronica is his dual. She doesn't seem like Fe-dom or Ne-HA if I remember correctly. She can be his activity, outer quadra relations also could make sense. Why do you think she is his dual or activity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    I don't think that Veronica is his dual. She doesn't seem like Fe-dom or Ne-HA if I remember correctly. She can be his activity, outer quadra relations also could make sense. Why do you think she is his dual or activity?
    Well she seemed ethical and sensory to me, I think demonstrative Fi makes the most sense. I agree that Fe base doesn’t make sense for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyber View Post
    Is Veronica his dual, or maybe his activity?
    I watched that movie last time probably 20 years ago... from what I can remember I'd say activity relationship between Seth and Veronica.

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    Stein's Gate is a very alpha anime, imo. Three main characters are alpha. The characters are realistic too (beyond the obvious tropes and plot contrivances), so it's not stupid.
    Okabe: ILE
    Kurisu: LII
    Mayuri: SEI
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    LII

    The Good Place- Chidi Anagonye

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    LII

    The Good Place- Chidi Anagonye
    Yes. He is such a good example imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    LII

    The Good Place- Chidi Anagonye
    Is the last season worth watching? I watched most of the series with my sister, but the last season wasn't available on her streaming subscriptions, and since I felt there'd been a decline in quality, I never bothered finding the last one.

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    Leliana from Dragon Age: SEI

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Is the last season worth watching? I watched most of the series with my sister, but the last season wasn't available on her streaming subscriptions, and since I felt there'd been a decline in quality, I never bothered finding the last one.
    Definitely, last season was awesome and integrative part of whole show, dont miss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    Definitely, last season was awesome and integrative part of whole show, dont miss it.
    Thanks!

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    I Love You Man:

    Peter - SEI
    Sidney - ILE





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    Quote Originally Posted by The Perpetual Now View Post
    I Love You Man:
    Peter - SEI
    Sidney - ILE
    I think this is an alpha movie, however, characters don't have a particular socionics type. Sidney has generally the best characteristics of both SEI and ILE, while Peter suffers from the negative characteristics (characteristics that reflected negatively upon himself not others) of ILE, SEI and LII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    I think this is an alpha movie, however, characters don't have a particular socionics type. Sidney has generally the best characteristics of both SEI and ILE, while Peter suffers from the negative characteristics (characteristics that reflected negatively upon himself not others) of ILE, SEI and LII.
    I could see any of those types for Peter, but I wanted to fit a specific type to each character. They complemented each other well, despite coming across as polar opposites in many ways, so I liked the idea they might be duals.

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    The 40 Year Old Virgin - Andy LII

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    X-Con Team (Ant-Man)
    Luis : ESE
    Kurt : LII
    Dave : SEI
    Scott : ILE


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    Also, Revenge of the Nerds seems a quintessentially Alpha movie.

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    George McFly (Back to the Future): possibly most likely LII.

    Loraine McFly: ESE

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    The Mirror Has Two Faces:
    Gregory Larkin - ILE


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    Tifa Final Fantasy 7 ESE

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