View Poll Results: what is her type?

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  • ILE (ENTp)

    1 25.00%
  • SEI (ISFp)

    0 0%
  • ESE (ESFj)

    0 0%
  • LII (INTj)

    0 0%
  • SLE (ESTp)

    0 0%
  • IEI (INFp)

    0 0%
  • EIE (ENFj)

    0 0%
  • LSI (ISTj)

    1 25.00%
  • SEE (ESFp)

    0 0%
  • ILI (INTp)

    1 25.00%
  • LIE (ENTj)

    1 25.00%
  • ESI (ISFj)

    0 0%
  • IEE (ENFp)

    0 0%
  • SLI (ISTp)

    0 0%
  • LSE (ESTj)

    0 0%
  • EII (INFj)

    0 0%
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Thread: Camille Paglia (possible ENTj)

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    ILE-Ti is more than obvious...she quite clearly lacks the LIE/ILI's capacity for dispassionate cost-benefit calculation. The expression of ideas is too frenzied, too conviction based, too passionately expressed for either type. That's the marks of Ne/Ti (see quotations posted earlier from Jung -- the primary source for socionic functions) and in her case, colored even more profoundly by the over-zealous gestalt of type 1.

    paglia's gestalt in no way seeks intimacy, even negates it. (she doesn't desire it or she tells herself she desires it but must put it off into the future to focus on her massive ambition <-- a line of reasoning sx-lasters report employing when they mistype themselves as sx-first or second)….i.e. she's a brickwall with none of the sx-instincts vulnerabilities slowing her down...and easy to dislike/doesn't haves much in the way of a personality typical sx-laster!

    a guy by the moniker dfgray44 once typed Camille Paglia as 8w9 sp/sx...dfgray is the admin at enneasite.com and posts on another board. He is an EII-Fi 4w3 sp/sx. I do give dfgray credit on my Stackemup Typology List (enneagram-side) for his contributions but the contributions are not many. Less than a dozen.

    The thing with dfgray is he was split down the middle as to the quality of his typings...some were really good but others were wayyy off...I mean like he couldn't hit the side of a barn with a baseball off the mark. He was a big hit or miss. This was due to the subjective impressionism in which he approached typing....it lacked cognition for internal structure as is typical of EII. dfgray typed ****** as 8w9 so/sp...that was a really terrible typing as was his sp/sx 8w9 typing of Camille Paglia and Charles Manson....all of whom are way too ungrounded for an 8w9 and just don't fit that character type. I recall his arguments pulled upon generalities like ****** is a megalomaniac or mass murderer. I don't think dfgray ever put it together that behaviors in a wider social context don't implicate enneagram type.

    I see that many of his typings, especially the worst of his typings, have been reproduced on novice/beginner Tela/Arachne/Eko's pinterest page but no credit has been given to him….Of course dfgray was never able to establish a valid breakdown for every enneagram type, wing and stack, because, essentially, those kind of typings aren't based on a valid breakdown of every enneagram type, wing and stack but simply are arrived at through a heightened subjective impressionism (total absence of Ti!)
    Last edited by Kill4Me; 08-09-2018 at 01:55 PM.

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