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    Default okay guys, help me type this guy I knew 20 years ago

    (darnit I just typed this whole thing out and lost it so here I go again):
    I don't know him anymore but I know enough about him to help with narrowing a type.

    He's always loved motorcycles and fast cars. He had a bike back in college and it was my first experience on a motorcycle (a love I've never shaken, but enough about me). He still has one today and I heard that he took a year off from his job to travel the US alone on the motorcycle. He doesn't mind spending a lot of time alone. When he was younger he constantly felt misunderstood by most people so he chose his friends carefully. The friends he did have were always loyal, fun and fairly close to him. He felt guilty for not adopting the religious beliefs of his parents and hides parts of his lifestyle from his mother even now. He doesn't like to be tied down, never married (he'll be 39 in a few days) but I think he's been living with someone for several years. not 100% sure about that. He has a heart for the less fortunate and social issues. He used to work in a prison, teaching English. I remember one time he left the dinner table rampaging against his mother for her racial prejudice (which WAS kinda bad but I was a guest so I just sat there, not sure what to to!). He plays the saxophone and can improvise like you wouldn't believe. He used to write the most amazing short stories too and almost applied for a creative writing master's program. He could draw really well and paint also. He was interested in my photography and jealous that I could play the piano. We used to drive out to the country and take black and white photos of old abandoned farmhouses. Seemed like he always had the ideas of what we were going to do (and really cool ideas) and he'd invite me along, it was constantly enjoyable. Oh and he loved to eat! We were always always going out to eat and his mother would give him tons of money so he'd pay for both of us. LOL

    I was thinking ISTp. Does that sound right for him? But then I wondered about ISTj for a brief moment because our relationship was always very good. Only I think one of his best friends was ENFp.
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    I get a lot of in your description. Definitely Fi>Fe

    Odd... I can actually map so many of those specific traits/descriptions with individuals I've been involved with over the years.

    Maybe FiSe...? ESI?
    Are you wedded to the idea that he's definitely an introvert?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aka-kitsune View Post
    I get a lot of in your description. Definitely Fi>Fe

    Odd... I can actually map so many of those specific traits/descriptions with individuals I've been involved with over the years.

    Maybe FiSe...? ESI?
    Are you wedded to the idea that he's definitely an introvert?
    I'm probably 85% sure he's an introvert. ESI, I hadn't even thought of that! I dunno why not....hmmmm
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    That guy is cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    That guy is cool.
    yeah I know it. I was so happy to be with him and actually really proud that he liked me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    yeah I know it. I was so happy to be with him and actually really proud that he liked me!
    I secretely think IEI's and ISTP's are dualz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aka-kitsune View Post
    I get a lot of in your description. Definitely Fi>Fe

    Odd... I can actually map so many of those specific traits/descriptions with individuals I've been involved with over the years.

    Maybe FiSe...? ESI?
    Are you wedded to the idea that he's definitely an introvert?
    I have thought about ESI being possible. What strike me as non-ESI was that "he doesn't like to be tied down", but that can have various different meanings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I have thought about ESI being possible. What strike me as non-ESI was that "he doesn't like to be tied down", but that can have various different meanings.
    right. he always said he wouldn't get married until he was 40 years old and he'd never have kids. I kinda just thought he was saying that because he was only 19 at the time and, you know, 19 year olds will say stuff and then later find themselves doing exactly what they said they'd never do. But so far, he's stuck with his plan. lol
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    I hear a lot of Si and Fi so I'd say ISTp. But there isn't much to go on. Could be ISFj too.
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    yeah okay. He's got a stocky build. Maybe 5'9" (which makes me slightly taller than him). Square jaw. Always walks with both hands in his pockets. Has a blank stare as his default expression. Won't smile for photos. He was very much "go with the flow" until something hit his sense of justice and then he'd get all upset. But that didn't happen very often. He was afraid of being disliked, judged for being different. Yet he enjoyed being different at the same time. He was always just ahead of the trends with music and clothes. He paid a fair bit of attention to how he dressed. I remember his mom would make him wear a suit on Easter Sunday. She'd take him to a nice department store and make him choose something. He looked totally dapper. I mean, he really could dress to kill. Now that I think about it, he paid a ton of attention to the things he was wearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I have thought about ESI being possible. What strike me as non-ESI was that "he doesn't like to be tied down", but that can have various different meanings.
    ESIs like to be tied down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    ESIs like to be tied down?
    The ones I know like to be in relationships, and that's how I'd define "tied down." But that's a generalization and wouldn't be true for all of them, so he certainly could be an ESI regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
    The ones I know like to be in relationships, and that's how I'd define "tied down." But that's a generalization and wouldn't be true for all of them, so he certainly could be an ESI regardless.
    to me, being in a relationship doesn't imply really being "tied down" though, unless your significant other is exceptionally demanding. i suppose i don't see a relationship as such. but yeah, perhaps you have a point.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    No, nobody "likes" to be tied down, but some types might be more willing than others to form permanent ties.
    forming permanent ties doesn't strike me as "being tied down" either. i don't know, every time i hear the phrase it almost totally seems like a negative way to say, "i'm not interested in relationships."
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    ESIs like to be tied down?
    No, nobody "likes" to be tied down, but some types might be more willing than others to form permanent ties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I have thought about ESI being possible. What strike me as non-ESI was that "he doesn't like to be tied down", but that can have various different meanings.
    i can imagine an esi would say that when imagining not wanting to be tied down to the wrong person specifically. especially a young one...and ever more likely if they have had mates that they don't find adequate for their needs.

    this can be true of many types though...
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    Yes, ISTp seems very possible...
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