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    Default The Greatest Enneagram Book EVER...

    Seriously, go out and buy it now if you're at all interested in enneagram. Superior to any and all interpretations of enneagram type and characteristics, and reads like a diagnostic manual:



    http://www.amazon.com/Character-Neur...9846983&sr=1-3

    Of course, it's apparently also now out of print and you'll have to hunt for it.
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    Actually this site appears to have them in stock for much cheaper than the new ones on Amazon; I just ordered one from them:

    http://www.bythewaybooks.com/cgi-bin/btw455/index.html
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    Cool!

    I've been rereading the section on type 4 again. Dammit, it's really uncanny how accurate this is regarding my personal behaviors and defense mechanisms...

    Really detailed and pretty much "clinical" in terminology and descriptions. Not at all wordy and new agey like the Riso-Hudson stuff. Might be less accessible to a non-psychologically-bent individual, though. There's ample corollary to psychoanalysis theory, including Freud and Jung.
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    I disagree with the main premise of the book (which is rightly embodied by the title "character and neurosis"), thus I have read it and found it not excessively worthwhile.
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    The cover looks like a pile of turds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reckoner View Post
    The cover looks like a pile of turds.
    lol I thought that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I disagree with the main premise of the book (which is rightly embodied by the title "character and neurosis"), thus I have read it and found it not excessively worthwhile.
    Too harsh, eh?

    I tend to be of the philosophy that everyone is neurotic, so why sugar-coat it...? You disagree then that type inherently defines character flaw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aka-kitsune View Post
    Too harsh, eh?
    Well, not exclusively that - it seems to be unobjective to characterize the whole humanity by its negative traits (supposing neurosis is a negative term).

    I tend to be of the philosophy that everyone is neurotic, so why sugar-coat it...?
    It could be said that everyone is -insert adjective here-. What matters is the (even imprecise) quantitative measure of -adjective-. If everybody is neurotic, but in a scale of 0 to 100 some people are 1 percent neurotic and some others 90 percent, it's likely that a typology based on neurosis will correctly identify only those with an high percentage.

    You disagree then that type inherently defines character flaw?
    Yes. I think that defines both flaws and positive qualities, and that different individuals may emphasize one set or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aka-kitsune View Post
    Too harsh, eh?

    I tend to be of the philosophy that everyone is neurotic, so why sugar-coat it...? You disagree then that type inherently defines character flaw?
    Wow, someone that understands.
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