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    I dunno, I find it hard to prescribe specific traits that are consistently different; sure LSIs tend to be more stereotypically introverted, but I have encountered some VERY reserved Ti-SLEs, and some extremely outgoing and talkative LSIs of both subtypes, so that's not really a sure bet. Actually I tend to think that, while SLEs are more naturally outgoing and usually have more finely tuned people skills, LSIs as a group tend to be generally more sociable; they seem to get more out of it, and are probably more likely to socialize or talk casually, "just for fun," whereas an SLE's social life is generally either a realm in which power is to be gained, or geared towards specific discharge, getting praise, bonding with close friends, etc.

    The real key, I think, is gauging the general energy, the sense of the person: when you interact with LSIs, they seem like they are coming from somewhere to talk to you, as though engaging with people is a sort of "venturing out" of their natural state. Even the really most outgoing of them seem like they are sort of reporting their thoughts to you; when "narrating" they tend to speak sequentially and categorically. Some of them talk really fast; sometimes they don't pay any heed to whether or not the person they are speaking to can understand them properly or keep up with their train of thought. If you just let them go, they can kind of steamroll conversations; to have effective two-way exchange with them you have to be able to tell both when it's "your turn" and when it's ok to interrupt them (and some of them DEFINITELY need to be interrupted, or they will rant for ages ).

    SLEs, on the other hand, are ALWAYS gauging you in conversation, always calculating. The more talkative ones will use various tactics to draw you out, sometimes ranting as a way to throw you off or put you in a place where they can tell more about you, by entrancing you (watch out for the 3s here, especially ), making you uncomfortable, poking and prodding, or sitting back laconically until they see something they can bite at. They are always testing you, always trying to gauge where you stand; it almost seems like they are so certain of themselves, but nothing else at all. SLEs tend to seem more loose and sporadic than LSIs. Se-LSIs tend to have a "tight" feeling, like they are maintaining specific personal boundaries, and Ti-LSIs generally seem just very composed and maintained; SLEs are always more casual and receptive than either. Ti-SLEs, especially the 3s, can seem very composed, especially in a professional setting, and have a distinct almost dangerous-seeming coldness to them, but even then you can see a tinge of that potential skater punk/surfer just below the surface, ready to cut loose at the first sight of ruckus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Ti-SLEs, especially the 3s, can seem very composed, especially in a professional setting, and have a distinct almost dangerous-seeming coldness to them, but even then you can see a tinge of that potential skater punk/surfer just below the surface, ready to cut loose at the first sight of ruckus.
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    SLEs don't think before they do anything and end up fucking themselves over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    SLEs don't think before they do anything and end up fucking themselves over.
    Actually that is true a lot of the time, but generally only the ones with an IQ of below 120.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Actually that is true a lot of the time, but generally only the ones with an IQ of below 120.
    Yeah, that's a good point. My SLE best friend growing up probably has an IQ around 110 or so, and he has been in prison like three times for kicking the shit out of people and putting one kid in a coma.

    Getting into fights is a surefire way to accidentally hurt someone and get sent to jail. Much better to provoke and claim self-defense, but it's still really dangerous.

    But yeah, I'm sure IQ has a lot to do with thinking about consequences, since it involves considering multiple variables.

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    On a side note, SLEs seem to be less empathetic than LSIs when joking around. Theyll just make a rude remark and then not feel sorry for it whereas LSI might do then same thing then be halfway apologetic about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    On a side note, SLEs seem to be less empathetic than LSIs when joking around. Theyll just make a rude remark and then not feel sorry for it whereas LSI might do then same thing then be halfway apologetic about it.
    The SLE that I have known can be very frankly honest and so much so that they won't care about how other's see that and won't appologize for it. They are severe but just. While LSI laws and order as pertaining to catagorization. LSI like for people to do things that are in their place to do and nothing more.
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