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    in past he looks closer to T



    while on recent videos closer to F


    interesting
    a change mb in 2011-2012
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    too senile to type.

    But I'd go with Alpha SF.

    This is him when young supposedly.


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    Not sure what type he is. I always thought he VI'd as SLI-Si, given I have a friend who is the same type. But his actual type I can't really be sure.

    People have suggested EIE, and that could also make sense since people sometimes VI as their conflictor.

    I'll come back to this later.


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    100% ESE

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    SEI with a dominant subtype

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A4jS8gUtjE
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

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    wtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Biden View Post
    wtf
    Ne as base function? I dunno. joe biden's slogan for the presidential tour was "no malarkey", a word that nobody uses anymore. logical type seems also unlikeyl, since he makes statements like these:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Rj...ature=youtu.be

    his family was involved in a car accident and he wanted to quit his career to take care of his children. he generally seems like a caregiver to me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-eD2n2dD2Y

    pretty interesting that he became president, considering his mental state. here are some other highlights:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73KD...ature=youtu.be
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANmcxW_-uA0&feature=youtu.be

    he speaks rather slowly and doesn't have the energy of an EP temperament imo. had a brief discussion with gulenko's school on his type and one person of his team met him in person once and told me that biden had an introverted temperament.
    my ideas about socionics:

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    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

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    and this is a thread with EIE examples

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    So supposedly he is male. So we probs we should expect less strominess from him in case he is ESE. So yeah, umnm... undecided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    Not sure what type he is. I always thought he VI'd as SLI-Si, given I have a friend who is the same type. But his actual type I can't really be sure.
    Agree. That or SEI-Si.

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    LSE

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    ESE

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    ESFJ - Yesenin



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    ESFJ- Yesenin

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    Lol ESE makes a lot of sense.
    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    The most interesting Taliban in the world - ESFJ - Yesenin

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    He seems ESE now but….idk. In his older videos he seems kind of different. There definitely seems to be something going on with this guy mentally….
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    I agree with ESE. Non-confrontational, preaching unity in an Alpha SF, comforting Si-esque fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrosebud View Post
    https://youtu.be/xWrhRgkfwHA
    Idk if this says anything lol
    It means that Fox will have a lot to discuss regarding their reporter's heritage, if not his habits.

    Regardless of whether or not the reporter's mother was a k-9, reporters are not expected to ask intelligent questions any more. So they don't.

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    Very interesting. He strikes me as an extremely good performer, hitting all the right emotions in the right places. Last time someone gave me that impression was Melissa McCarthy, who's ESE. So I'll go with him being ESE now.

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    Alpha SF SEI insane dementia like my Dad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazymaisy View Post
    Alpha SF SEI insane dementia like my Dad.
    It’s the struggle of wisdom gained by great experience running on deteriorating hardware. The intention is there but the glitches are coming harder and more frequently.

    I know the problem.

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    Which type fall out from bycicles, love icecream, and is potentially demented? Anyway, G typed him LSI.

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    Base Fi, not a sensing type, EII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
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    I think the reason why you came to that conclusion is because you suspect that he's following orders from Barack Obama. Which is not impossible.

    Biden is in all probability the same SF type as Jean-Luc Picard from Star Trek: The Next Generation. Very slightly future-oriented (only to the next generation, nothing further) and folk-oriented. Very good-humored and sportsmanlike. @crazymaisy 's typing as SEI seems likely.
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    Dr.G typed him LSI in one of his SHS videos (as far as I know he didn't mention his subtype).




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    A recent paper that discusses two papers that had "expert raters" assess the personality of Biden, one in the HEXACO, and one in the Millon Inventory of Diagnostic Criteria:
    Semel, R., 2023. President Biden’s personality characteristics and his success as US President: a brief analysis. J Psychol Clin Psychiatry, 14(6), pp.152-155. (direct link to pdf file)

    Abstract
    The current article reviews two studies of President Biden’s personality, one conducted just before and the other following his election to the Presidency in November 2020. Both studies utilized at-a-distance assessment methods involving expert raters who completed standardized personality inventories based on reviewing President Biden’s public persona. Both studies suggested that President Biden possesses prosocial traits, including a high level of extraversion and a moderately high level of agreeableness, enabling him to be a “healer-in-chief.” Yet, despite the prosocial traits emphasized in both studies, President Biden has had low approval ratings by the American public, and most Americans, including Democrats, do not want him to run for re-election. However, public opinion polls do not necessarily reflect a president’s performance, and it may be premature to conclude whether President Biden has had a successful presidency. In this article, President Biden’s personality qualities will be discussed briefly in connection with a study of 41 US presidents that focused partly on associations between presidential personality and presidential greatness or success. President Biden’s “conciliatory extravert” personality style, in conjunction with his modest levels of ambition and dominance, might not be consistent with the particularly high levels of assertiveness and achievement-striving historically characteristic of “great” presidents. This may help explain in part why most Americans have, at the present time, not perceived President Biden as a very popular or successful president. Ultimately, historians will form judgments in the future about his presidency.
    Overall, the study by Book et al.,1 suggested that Biden appears to be an average person with a high level of extraversion and relatively high prosocial traits, including Agreeableness and Conscientiousness. The overall Honesty-Humility domain rating was average for Biden, including a high Fairness rating. However, Biden’s rating was low on the Sincerity facet, slightly higher than Trump’s, and was the lowest of all his positive traits across all HEXACO domains. The Sincerity facet of the Honesty-Humility domain measures a person’s willingness to be manipulative and disingenuous with others to achieve a desired outcome. Biden’s low Sincerity rating might not be a liability, though, as will be discussed later; nevertheless, the significance of this is unclear regarding President Biden’s performance in office.

    A study by Griebe and Immelman2 aimed to utilize an “Empirically-based personological framework for inferring Biden’s major personal strengths and limitations and anticipating his likely leadership style as president.” At-a-distance ratings of Mr. Biden’s personality on the Millon Inventory of Diagnostic Criteria11 were reported to be based on a wide array of 400 biographical sources and media reports. The results were all within normal limits. Biden’s primary personality pattern was consistent with the Outgoing/gregarious pattern, with a secondary Accommodating/cooperative pattern and lower characteristics on the Ambitious/confident pattern. The overall personality configuration was consistent with the conciliatory extravert subtype, referred to also as an appeasing extravert subtype. Persons with this subtype tend to have a strong affiliation motive; they are driven to seek approval and attempt to smooth things over when encountering disagreements or conflicts. Persons with the Outgoing personality pattern might be adept at using their positive interpersonal qualities to maintain supportive relationships and alliances in the political realm needed to implement policies. The study authors noted that the Ambitious pattern plays a very limited role in his overall personality functioning. Based on the configuration of scores in the profile, it was anticipated that Biden would be a “collegial leader,” a “good listener” who “sees both sides of issues,” with a “willingness to take a back seat in the policy-making process, who prefers consensus-building and group-maintenance techniques”; an “uniter, not a divider.” The study authors noted, however, that Biden might be unduly open to pressure and influence, which could make him vulnerable to pressures within his party and impede his leadership effectiveness in negotiations or conflicts with foreign adversaries. Additionally, Biden’s modest levels of ambition and dominance, low conscientiousness, and relatively superficial cognitive style associated with the outgoing pattern might hamper his presidential performance.
    The first study mentioned: Book, A., Visser, B. and Volk, A., 2020. Average Joe, Crooked Hillary and the unStable Narcissist: Expert Impressions of 2016 and 2020 (direct link to pdf file)

    The second study mentioned: Griebie, A.M. and Immelman, A., 2021. The personality profile and leadership style of US President Joe Biden. (direct link to pdf file)

    Table from the first study mentioned (HEXACO scores for Biden and Trump):


    The percentile for each trait I think is how they compare to the general population (?).

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    SEI. He doesn’t get much done, but he throws a mean bipartisan pizza party and brought decency/good vibes back to the oval office

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    Alpha SF for sure. I think ESE

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    maybe he is an LSI (as G said) that has morphed into an ESE in his old age
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averroes View Post
    SEI. He doesn’t get much done, but he throws a mean bipartisan pizza party and brought decency/good vibes back to the oval office
    He recently got Xi and China to agree to half a dozen concessions in under 4 hours.

    Granted China is currently desperate and this changes nothing of the cold war going on, but Biden's Government did accomplish something tangible.

    China, for one, will crack down domestically on the chemicals to make fentanyl, that currently fuels the US opioid crisis. (Thanks Purdue)

    So that's good.

    Beats the toxic NPD in the other party.

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    Saw him on TV not too long ago and he looked like a zombie. Old age + White House in the midst of all this does not do anybody well.

    He's IEE. I recommend watching earlier videos of him when he wasn't so out of it.

    https://youtu.be/cCZ5_XwqchE?si=s2Bj_8cb4dwjUbUk

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    One of the things I've never been accused of is not caring about people.

    We must rekindle the fire of idealism in our society.

    My father used to have an expression. He'd say, 'Joey, a job is about a lot more than a paycheck. It's about your dignity. It's about respect. It's about your place in your community.'

    Life is a matter of really tough choices.

    If you need more than 10 rounds to hunt, and some argue they hunt with that many rounds, you shouldn't be hunting. If you can't get the deer in 3 shots, you shouldn't be hunting. You are an embarrassment.

    We are America, second to none, and we own the finish line. Don't forget it.
    He is not visionary ENFJ nor ideationally N: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/joe-biden-quotes_2

    Ethical in quote(s), sensing overall.

    I'll run with ESE.

    His whole handling of Russia with Ukraine initially on the White House floor was EJ business. Control chaos with the typical EJ concision, with high assertive aspirations.

    IMO SEI pussy foot around, not that here in his showmanship to Putin.

    J is about concision and everything that emanates from him, is direct with results at the end.



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