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Thread: ILEs: What's your MBTI Type?

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    These kind of polls are totally meaningless and does much more harm than good. Every single ILE in the whole world, without exceptions, is an ENTP in MBTT. The only thing that can be proven with such a poll is that people don't understand the types and that they look like idiots. It is of course stupid to believe that you can be some other type than ENTP if you really are an ILE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    These kind of polls are totally meaningless and does much more harm than good. Every single ILE in the whole world, without exceptions, is an ENTP in MBTT. The only thing that can be proven with such a poll is that people don't understand the types and that they look like idiots. It is of course stupid to believe that you can be some other type than ENTP if you really are an ILE.
    Disagree. The MBTT's emphasis on the "social" definition of extraversion resulted in my always getting INTP in MBTT.

    This was of course before I realized that I "need" people around me and enjoy them immensely and instead assumed "people don't like [my Ne], I must not like them either."

    MBTT is about external behaviors, while socionics is about information processing. People can process things the same way yet act differently due to a fantastic array of environmental and internal variables.
    ILE - Ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diljs View Post
    Disagree. The MBTT's emphasis on the "social" definition of extraversion resulted in my always getting INTP in MBTT.
    That's a not too uncommon phenomenon, caused by the fact that you don't understand the meaning of the concept extraversion, which has the exact same meaning in MBTT as in Socionics. You confuse the symptoms of extraversion with extraversion itself. And you confuse your MBTI test result with your real type in MBTT too. They are not always the same thing.

    An ENTP friend of mine also tested as INTP when he didn't understand the correct meaning of the words "extraversion" and "introversion". But the fact that he tested as INTP doesn't mean that he has ever been an INTP. He has always (since birth) been an ENTP in MBTT and an ILE in Socionics. And that is true of every other ILE/ENTP in the world too.

    Quote Originally Posted by diljs
    MBTT is about external behaviors, while socionics is about information processing.
    No, that is totally false. Both MBTT and Socionics are about information processing, and both MBTT and Socionics are about external behaviours as well. There is no principal difference between these two theories in these respects.

    Quote Originally Posted by diljs
    People can process things the same way yet act differently due to a fantastic array of environmental and internal variables.
    No, they can't. Not in the sense that is relevant to the types anyway.

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    I see what you're arguing, and yes I do agree that an ILE is innately an MBTT ENTP.

    However my argument is that in practice, ILE's will get different results. Blah blah understanding of extraversion whatever, the way MBTI is worded generates different results for people who haven't researched what I consider a mostly useless theory.
    ILE - Ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diljs View Post
    I see what you're arguing, and yes I do agree that an ILE is innately an MBTT ENTP.
    So, you don't disagree. Why do you claim that you disagree when you clearly don't? Don't you understand your own claims?

    Quote Originally Posted by diljs
    However my argument is that in practice, ILE's will get different results.
    Which is a TOTALLY irrelevant comment.

    Quote Originally Posted by diljs
    Blah blah understanding of extraversion whatever, the way MBTI is worded generates different results for people who haven't researched what I consider a mostly useless theory.
    So you are an idiot who has an a opinion on a subject which you know nothing about? That's "explains" your idiotic behaviour, but it doesn't excuse it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    These kind of polls are totally meaningless and does much more harm than good. Every single ILE in the whole world, without exceptions, is an ENTP in MBTT. The only thing that can be proven with such a poll is that people don't understand the types and that they look like idiots. It is of course stupid to believe that you can be some other type than ENTP if you really are an ILE.
    What's your opinion on Albert Einstein, Phaedrus? Most Socionists consider him to be an ILE, while most MBTI enthusiasts consider him to be an INTP. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason_m View Post
    What's your opinion on Albert Einstein, Phaedrus? Most Socionists consider him to be an ILE, while most MBTI enthusiasts consider him to be an INTP. What do you think?
    He was definitely one of these two types. I can accept him as ILE, but I don't find the evidence 100 % conclusive.

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    Do you ever get bored of this shit, you bureaucratic fuckwit?

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    this thread was hilarious to read, the ending was the best

    fuckwit, bahahaha

    (especially when you picture the guy in Ezra's photo delivering the last bit )
    ~*ENTp*~

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