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    Default Fuck enneagram type E4s

    You're super-shite. Even Eights are cooler than you.

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    Here, you can hear "E4 = shit".

    You thought it was "people" ? Listen better : you'll hear it's actually "E4". That's right. "eee-fo-r"

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    So, how long have you wanted to be a Four, machintruc?? You know, this Four-Envy you have is really quite embarrassing.

    Don't hate the Four.
    Hate the enneagram for romanticizing the Four.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aka-kitsune View Post
    So, how long have you wanted to be a Four, machintruc?? You know, this Four-Envy you have is really quite embarrassing.

    Don't hate the Four.
    Hate the enneagram for romanticizing the Four.
    If I was a Four, I'd be smarter, pushier, and more attractive ; I mean, everything that modern society expects from cool people. I'm OK being 0+-, but I still think Fours are interesting, if not lovable.

    Besides their descriptions, Fours are often perceived by most people as the fuckin' shit, unlike people like Fives and Eights.

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    ...ummm...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Besides their descriptions, Fours are often perceived by most people as the fuckin' shit, unlike people like Fives and Eights.
    Ah... I guess it's too bad they never believe other people really think that, eh? Name me one Four that believes their own hype and I'll show you a Three.

    Or a Seven. They really *ARE* the shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aka-kitsune View Post
    Ah... I guess it's too bad they never believe other people really think that, eh? Name me one Four that believes their own hype and I'll show you a Three.

    Or a Seven. They really *ARE* the shit.
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    Number of posts in types forums at enneagram.pl:
    1 - 3420
    2 - 1122
    3 - 1624
    4 - 21518
    5 - 10513
    6 - 1065
    7 - 3279
    8 - 3493
    9 - 1379
    For me that's enough reason to hate Fours ;]

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    Quote Originally Posted by aka-kitsune View Post
    Don't hate the Four.
    Hate the enneagram for romanticizing the Four.
    I thought Four was the Romantic though. If you un-romanticize them, what's left?

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    Ugh thee envy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaebette View Post
    Ugh thee envy!
    no that's your thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stellafera View Post
    no that's your thing
    Touché

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    throwing my weight behind this

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    Fuck 5s too! They're both overrated online.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jailbait View Post
    Fuck 5s too! They're both overrated online.
    Well nobody usually give a damn about them in real life, they need to get their recognition from somewhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fay View Post
    Well nobody usually give a damn about them in real life, they need to get their recognition from somewhere.
    Real 5s don't want any recognition. They're just small insects trying not to get squished by their points of intergration and disintegration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    Real 5s don't want any recognition. They're just small insects trying not to get squished by their points of intergration and disintegration.
    That's not quite true, 5s want to be recognized for their work and knowledge. They associate the worth of their own self with how professionally recognized they get in their fieled.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fay View Post
    Well nobody usually give a damn about them in real life, they need to get their recognition from somewhere.
    I know, I actually appreciate them a lot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jailbait View Post
    Fuck 5s too! They're both overrated online.
    type 5 irl

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    yeah and fuck gut types too, theyre all shit

    only good type is like 2 3 and maybe 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    yeah and fuck gut types too, theyre all shit

    only good type is like 2 3 and maybe 7
    I thought 2 was supposed to be the worst type. What are you saying, Bertrand?

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    machintruc has offensive type descriptions. He pretty much called everyone autistic wife beaters. Alphas were exception.
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    what

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    what
    Quote Originally Posted by enneasite
    The ennea-symbol, itself, provides a couple of insights into the cosmogony of Type 5. Considering the connecting lines – 5 has a line to 7 in one direction, and 8 in the other — 5 sits between 7 and 8, from one perspective. And these two types (7 and 8), as a general energetic character trait, exhibit ‘Big Me’-ness, each filling up a large amount of ‘personality’ space. So the compression that ‘fetus 5’ experienced during its primordial gestation left it with little or no room for physical existence; its only recourse was to take up residence mainly in abstract space, in the setting of the mind, significantly shoved out from corporeal existence by these two Jupiters.
    http://enneasite.com/the-types/e5-the-reticent/

    5s never want attention. See? This site is totally reliable and not some pseudo-religious thing.

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    5s are independent and have a huge sense of personal power so they don't really care if they get recognition or not, so long as they're doing whatever the fuck they want

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    Who could have thought the one that says you are unique would be the most popular?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alomoes View Post
    Who could have thought the one that says you are unique would be the most popular?
    and now the only true way to be unique is type yourself as a ESE 629 So/Sx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stellafera View Post
    and now the only true way to be unique is type yourself as a ESE 629 So/Sx
    This.

    The only way to be unique is to not want to be unique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    You're super-shite. Even Eights are cooler than you.
    Yeah, I'd totally fuck them.

    I love 4s and 8s (SX at least) because they're so intense and possessive. They are always burning with a primal lust to breed, you can see it in their eyes. Anyway I am keen to bend a few over, so give them my number - we can have lots of super dramatic sex to the sweet sound of hard rock. I have the scene, and it's going to be fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrows View Post
    BTW 4s&8s that are both Sx first is a crazy match made in hell. Fun for a while. Goes up in flames.
    I like the idea of making them fight each other for me, naked ideally.

    It might get violent though. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...icLoveTriangle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuivienen View Post
    I like the idea of making them fight each other for me, naked ideally.

    It might get violent though. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...icLoveTriangle
    A 4 probably wouldn't fight for you. They attract by withdrawing and seeming mysterious/hard to get. So they'd probably not contact you but find ways to lure you back, making you have made all the effort

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaebette View Post
    A 4 probably wouldn't fight for you. They attract by withdrawing and seeming mysterious/hard to get. So they'd probably not contact you but find ways to lure you back, making you have made all the effort
    While I do like girls who have an air of mystery about them, I expect them to warm up, emote and for an intense connection to be created. I would quickly get irritated by a girl who withdrew from me in the way you are describing, because I need a lot of attention and direct energy to be satisfied.

    Sorry 4s! Looks like you won't be having my babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrows View Post
    Shaebette, we have the exact same instincts and enneagram. But with a three wing is the 4w3 sx/sp that mysterious?
    I don't think I am .....
    I do think that when I like someone, I try to make myself seem hard to get and attractive so that THEY approach me. For me the 3 wing makes me GO for them, but not exactly in the sense of approaching them, but in the sense of making myself be in the convenient places and situations to be approached. Of course, sometimes I just do the approaching and the flirting but I prefer the former. Do you feel that @sorrows? How does it happen for you?

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    Oh dear *-*

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    Quote Originally Posted by hybris theory View Post
    Oh dear *-*

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    The most annoying thing about E4s is that they expect to be treated like they are special even when nothing they actually do can be considered unique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syynth View Post
    The most annoying thing about E4s is that they expect to be treated like they are special even when nothing they actually do can be considered unique.
    Do E4s really expect to be treated in an elevated way simply for existing?

    That sounds seriously unhealthy to me.

    I have always understood 4s as people torn apart by opposing forces - on the one hand they want to belong/merge and be admired, but on the other, they want to be unique. Many 4s fear connecting with someone else because they think this would require them to sacrifice their individuality. However, I don't see how being unique requires you to shut out the world and become an outcast. Someone will see the beauty within you, and appreciate you for who you are - but if you only dream about them you'll never find them. It is not who you are underneath, but what you do that defines you. 4s only start to realise this when/if they integrate to 1.

    Unfortunately, I've had to deal with a 4 who disintegrated and reveled in her own suffering. She romanticised herself as a tragic, misunderstood victim in need of a male rescuer/provider to "complete her". I was much more naive than I am now and allowed her to abuse my empathy. The truth is that while healthy 4s have the potential to achieve a great deal, the majority of the 4s you see online are unhealthy and stuck in a rut only they can dig themselves out of. The question is whether they really want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuivienen View Post
    Do E4s really expect to be treated in an elevated way simply for existing?

    That sounds seriously unhealthy to me.
    I dont expect to be treated in any way. If anything I expect people to dislike me. I project that, and in return feel "spite" for those people, and the world, and reject them even before anything has happened.

    A person who expects to be treated better than others and people to love them just for existing is probably 3. Both 3 and 4 want to be unique. But the 4 feel their uniqueness as a negative thing while 3 often as a positive.. there can be some overlapping in 4w3 and 3w4 obviously. Elliott Rodger was 3w4. He expected people to want him, and for girls to be all over him, but they weren't. So.. he killed them. D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniac View Post
    A person who expects to be treated better than others and people to love them just for existing is probably 3.
    This is called E2. Don't fall for Chae's propaganda. Assertive types really, really don't line up with "just existing" anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    This is called E2. Don't fall for Chae's propaganda. Assertive types really, really don't line up with "just existing" anyways.
    2s feel like they have to take action in the form of helping for people to love them. But the action will make them deserving of their love.
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