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Best leaders are the very idealistic loser white boy comic book type that is very self-conscious of their own abilities. They usually need lots of support and buttering up to get to this point, and some people feel that doing such is too unnecessary and impractical. A willing leader is better than no leader at all, and is the easier option. However that doesn't make those willing leaders the best. The leader of a utopia, pleasant society...the most fair it can be, is that type.
Almost all the stories about Heroes are that type, and Heroes-Leaders.... go hand in hand.
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He *was* a mass-murderer, whether complex or not.
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*Groan* Yes you cynical nancyboy, we all know that evil will always be here in one form of the another. You're so perceptive! Only, not. Listen, Jews do have a great foothold on the entertainment industry and know how to communicate information in extremely accurate and effective ways, but nobody is really scared/afraid to say a lot of things openly, in my town people would say 'jew boy' or 'that's so gay, fagwad!' all the time. "Stingy like a jew, and he plays hockey like one too!" Do you think they cared about a jewish or gay rights activist and what they thought? You assume what other people think/society behaves too much. Tell us, dear friend, what do YOU personally think of the Jews, so we can pick apart and slap your ass when your own bigotry for all its worth. Are you proud of yourself that you're just kind of a regular guy that does more 'worldy' things and don't pride yourself on jew boy-like idealism and moral code and shifty social behavior?every scholar knows that antisemitism always took and will take new forms, so IMO, holocaust memorials and antifascist resistance movies are nothing more than entertainment.
And btw you asshole, they raise money for good causes in the world they are not 'just pointless entertainment.' You yourself call yourself a Fe-valuer. You should know this; the Fe-like atmosphere of these events shouldn't be distracting you in this fashion.
Yes honey, Jews control the world with their sneaky, sleazy ways but they are just so damned good at it so we let them. The holocaust was a horrific experience, and sometimes Jews make themselves their own victims like any minorities & they can admit this; I hate Seinfeld's 'tude too sometimes but uggggh @ your post.
I can say that without any drinks, in front of my Jewish friends too. You think people are more sensitive to Political Correctness than they actually are, I believe. Your Si-polr is showing, as you can't judge other people's comfort level about things too well. And he was able to do a lot of shit of course he was a great leader in that way. Effective leader and good leader are of course two different things.Because I've on occasion observed people making remarks such as "I don't agree with what he did, but he was a great leader in many ways" etc etc after having one drink or two.
You can't kill all the Jews even if they are sneaky, money-hungry rats that can't play hockey. We wouldn't have Animaniacs!!!
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I really do not understand what you are thinking is extremism.
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****** was a mass murderer and to give him any kind of "props" is insane.
Well first of all does that mean Jeffery Dahmer who ate little boys was just a deep guy?
Secondly, the "winners" account of history came at a pretty heavy cost in terms of human life.
Thirdly, calling the "jewish question" a "minor problem" when the exterminated the equivalent of the population of nyc seems awfully disturbingly removed.
And Fourth...Every group of people has the right to produce the sentimant that it deserves to thrive and not based on hatred of another group, but out of a celebrated and ackowledged history.
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"I'm Sick of Old Men Dreaming Up Wars for Young Men To Die In," George McGovern.
And what difference does this make? So you think e.g. that a school shooter should not be punished because anybody could become a school shooter under certain circumstances? Of course you are judged by what you actually do instead of what you might theoretically do. If you are a leader then you are responsible for, not only what you personally do, but also what the organization of people you are leading does.
If ****** was somehow against what the Nazi Germany did he could have stepped down at any point and said "I don't want to be involved in this shit". But he didn't. He tried to hang on to the power even when the battle was, realistically speaking, already lost. He was ready to sacrifice each and every German person just to stay in power for one more moment. And then he committed suicide because he knew how guilty he was (though I don't know if his suicide can be proven with 100% certainty).
Holocaust denial is not banned everywhere. To focus on the countries that do ban it is a straw man argument. Holocaust denial is as discredited as the hollow Earth theory, not because no discussion is allowed anywhere, but because when there has been discussion, its arguments were shown to be ridiculous. THAT, however, is too complicated for you to understand, it seems.
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He told me when we were together. Why?
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I'm just being pedantic, but anyway --
1) There were enough eyewitnesses in the bunker of his plans to commit suicide, of his body being found in his office by his bodyguard after the deed, of his body being burned, and of allied officers finding the signs of the suicide in the room where he did it. Unless all of those people were telling a consistent lie, it's proven.
2) He did not do it because he "knew how guilty he was" - he did it to avoid capture by the Russians, and/or to avoid Mussolini's fate.
I didn't know the details. I remember it was the Russians that found him. I thought there was the option that they captured him alive and secretly took him as a prisoner and made up a story that he suicided so that no one would come looking for him. There is probably some strategic advantage if you can question him and others can't. But I guess these kind of scenarios are not very realistic then?
Well, that's kind of the same thing
The Russians found him, but that doesn't change the fact that lots of the eyewitness of the last events in the bunker - who also witnessed the burning of his corpse - eventually found their way into the West. So, again, it's only sustainable if all those people were lying, up to when they died (rather recently in some cases).
Of course it isn't. What does fear of being captured by your enemy have to do with "knowing you are guilty"?Well, that's kind of the same thing
If he was a sociopath he didn't feel guilt anyways so...I guess you are right.
Why do you think we'd want him? He's definitely a Beta! I've always had trouble getting along with them, and I don't think I'd get along with Adolph either.Any ideas? I was thinking Delta might like him.
Of course you wouldn't want him.
I wouldn't get along with him either!
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