Company and Quadra

[leckysupport]

I've been going to a lot of interviews and doing a lot of temporary part-time work lately and I have come to notice that every company I have worked for or was interview by (interviewer(s) and receptionist was typed) was made up of mostly one quadra.

BUT... whenever I hear work stories on the forums almost all work places are mixed, i.e someone has a benefit boss or something.

Also I'm noticing that the vast majority of marriages (good and bad) are inter-quadra marriages. But again the forum is telling me a different story.

[FDG]

I've been going to a lot of interviews and doing a lot of temporary part-time work lately and I have come to notice that every company I have worked for or was interview by (interviewer(s) and receptionist was typed) was made up of mostly one quadra.

BUT... whenever I hear work stories on the forums almost all work places are mixed, i.e someone has a benefit boss or something.

Also I'm noticing that the vast majority of marriages (good and bad) are inter-quadra marriages. But again the forum is telling me a different story.

I agree with you, when I go around I see the same things.

[Expat]

I've been going to a lot of interviews and doing a lot of temporary part-time work lately and I have come to notice that every company I have worked for or was interview by (interviewer(s) and receptionist was typed) was made up of mostly one quadra.

I have observed that some companies do indeed have a predominance of one quadra over the others. This happens either because it's a smaller company (or group within the company) that has essentially been put together by a very small number of people, perhaps even originally by one individual, and they tend to hire always people of the same quadra.

Also - in what may be an extension of the same thing - some companies have a strong "culture" of one quadra, where naturally people of that quadra will be hired/be more visible/successful etc.

But: I have also worked in companies where none of that was visible. Like, a LSE managing director was succeeded by a LSI, and an EIE sales director was succeeded by a LSE. Where the main salesman was an IEE throughout, with ILE, ESE and SEI as main technical guys, etc.

Also I'm noticing that the vast majority of marriages (good and bad) are inter-quadra marriages. But again the forum is telling me a different story.

I don't know about "vast majority."

Here's a list of those I feel confident to have a strong opinion on:

My parents: ESE-SEI, Alpha
My brother and sister-in-law: ILE-SEI, Alpha
My mother's mother and father: EIE-EII, Beta-Delta

Among couples I am personally very familiar with (as in, over years):

- LSE f - EII m - Delta
- LSI m - SEI f - Beta-Alpha
- LIE m - SEE f - Gamma
- EII m - SEI f - Delta-Alpha
- EII m - ESI f - Delta-Gamma
- LSI m - ESI f - Beta-Gamma
- SEE m - ESI f - Gamma
- ILI m - ESI f - Gamma
- SLI m - ESE f - Delta-Alpha
- LIE m - ESI f - Gamma
- ESE f - ILE m - Alpha

This is just off the top of my head.

Try as I might, I can't think of any other opposing-quadra marriage besides my grandparents'.

Overall it doesn't look bad for intra-quadra in my opinion, especially since of couse inter-quadra is more likely in terms of random probability only.

[Khola aka Bee]

Well mine WAS SEI-SEE...I think? Alpha-Gamma.

I think my workplace is alpha, I love that place! And that is saying a LOT!

[Wynch]

My workplace as a whole has a pretty varied quadra mix, mostly because it's science meets government. My division in particular has a really bad mix for intertype relations and it shows. Shows rather obviously.

These are the types of our happy crew, I believe.

LIE boss, SEE admin assitant, SEI, EII, SLE, ESE, ILE x 2 , SEE (or maybe LIE), IEI, ESI, LII, SLI

So there's

LIE - SEI conflict
SEE - LII conflict
ILE - ESI conflict
SLE - EII conflict
Alpha NT - Gamma SF general conflicts
Alpha SF - Gamma NT general conflicts
Beta ST - Delta NF general conflicts
Beta NF - Delta ST general conflicts

We're a happy division.

[redbaron]

I don't know about companies, but marriages I'm familiar with are these:

IEI-ESE (beta-alpha)
SEI-EII (alpha-delta)
IEI-SLE (beta)
SEI-EIE (alpha-beta)
ESE-LII (alpha)
LII-ILE (alpha)
IEI-LSI (beta)
EIE-IEI (beta)
IEI-SLE (beta)
EII-SEI (delta-alpha)
ILE-SEE (gamma)
ESI-SEE (gamma)
IEI-SEE (beta-gamma)

Okay so from my experience, intra-quadra marriages probably are slightly more common.

[Blaze]

not sure about marriages, but i can comment on companies. seems like companies/work environments do develop along the lines of a dominant quadra. my current agency is clearly gamma, previous agency was clearly delta. it's actually easier for me to get along at the gamma agency rather than the delta. i think it's because the CEO of the gamma is an LIE....same club at least and she sees me as being innovative and smart, so even though she's not gonna put me second in command or anything, she clearly sees my value.

but the delta agency was like hell on wheels, all that socionics/EII supervision was excruciating in a work environment. my direct supervisor was an EIE, and she and i got along fine, but everybody else was picked by her boss (EII) and so was delta. the betas except for my boss were weeded out and it became very delta/Fi.

i think work environments will tolerate opposing quadra stuff, since the focus is on business results. a company can't really afford to leave out certain points of view....it's bad business and the company can start to get tunnel visioned.

marriage, on the other hand, the distance is so close that it seems like opposing quadra relationships probably feel like way too much work. i mean who wants to have to work at home, too? so intra-quadra and neighboring quadra relations are more common i would think.

[leckysupport]

I have observed that some companies do indeed have a predominance of one quadra over the others. This happens either because it's a smaller company (or group within the company) that has essentially been put together by a very small number of people, perhaps even originally by one individual, and they tend to hire always people of the same quadra.

I've seen this phenomnia in a large multi-national company that produces everyday goods in a office of hundreds of staff. Not everyone you came across is in alpha in this particular company but not being alpha always seemed like the exception to the rule.

Also - in what may be an extension of the same thing - some companies have a strong "culture" of one quadra, where naturally people of that quadra will be hired/be more visible/successful etc.

I've done come psychometric tests at some interviews which generally asked if you where one particular type (LSE and LSI), they didn't even use MBTI or Big 5. The language of the tests where also in that of a particular type (the test where written in the way a particular type thinks), so unless you really understood the type it's like you couldn't really cheat.

But: I have also worked in companies where none of that was visible. Like, a LSE managing director was succeeded by a LSI, and an EIE sales director was succeeded by a LSE. Where the main salesman was an IEE throughout, with ILE, ESE and SEI as main technical guys, etc.

I havn't come across a company such as this although at a school I worked at which also seemed to be alpha based organisation has a facilities manger who is LSE. He had the power to hire and the people which he hired and I had spoken to seemed to me to be all delta STs. So I can see how companies could branch off, but I've never really seen it on a grand scale.

Field of work appears to me to be more about clubs.

I don't know about "vast majority."

Try as I might, I can't think of any other opposing-quadra marriage besides my grandparents'.

Overall it doesn't look bad for intra-quadra in my opinion, especially since of couse inter-quadra is more likely in terms of random probability only.

My experience of marriages is based around typing my parents friends (they are big church goers, so lots of couples to type) and it is very rare for me to type a couple out of quadra. Out of 9 or 10 couples at my parents church I've typed only 1 might be a out of quadra marriage. But then again most of the people my parents hang around with are other alphas and maybe they're instinctively not hanging out with non-alphas.

My friends usually hang around one dominate quadra and they sometimes choose their girlfriends/boyfriends from people they already know or are connected to their own group in some way (usually same quadra). So I'm guessing it might be unlikely to choose a out of quadra wife simple due to the fact that most people just don't mix that much outside of their own quadra.

[Khola aka Bee]

Ok, FWIW this copany feels predominantly Alpha, but I am almost positive the MD is LIE. For sure. I'm seeing a trend here with head honchos and being LIE, anyone else?