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    Indulge me.

    These are two pictures of a guy I've known for years:








    He agreed to let me post them here for a while.

    I do have a very strong opinion on his type, based on knowing him.

    Based on VI alone, which types would you suggest for him?
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    ENTp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Based on VI alone, which types would you suggest for him?
    INTj, INTp, ISFj, and INFj

    (probably not beta, although INFp could be a slight possibility, I'm thinkin.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Based on VI alone, which types would you suggest for him?
    ENTp. (and maybe ESFp)
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    I have no real knowledge of VI (never read about it), but I always get "vibes" when seeing people, and he gives me a vibe I recognize. Talkative, very talkative, I'd say. Maybe loud. Social. Funny. LIE, I think.
    He's social and can be very funny, but not so loud. But I wouldn't associate that primarily to LIE.


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    ENTp?
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    ESE.
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    INTp
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    EII; complete guess.
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    I was thinking Gamma SF for some reason.
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    INTj, INTp, ISFj, and INFj

    (probably not beta, although INFp could be a slight possibility, I'm thinkin.)
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    ENTp. (and maybe ESFp)
    Not sure what each of you is looking at. Are you all comparing him to other people you know, or are you trying to get a feel for the kind of person he is? Or analyzing specific features?

    I can add that the two pictures pretty much reflect how he is IRL. I mean, it's not as if he's a sullen or aggressive guy who made an effort to appear differently in the picture.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Are you all comparing him to other people you know, or are you trying to get a feel for the kind of person he is? Or analyzing specific features?

    I can add that the two pictures pretty much reflect how he is IRL. I mean, it's not as if he's a sullen or aggressive guy who made an effort to appear differently in the picture.
    yeah, i try to get a sense of movement from poses in pictures, so if you say it's how he normally looks it's more helpful. Also it makes a difference how he appears if he has known you for years, to me.. if he a type I would normally not type as relaxed.

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    I don't find any comparison points from the people I know. Thus I cannot really say.

    Anyways he doesn't look ego type unless he is Fi-ISFj.

    Some Fi-quadra type I guess because he is your dear friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX View Post

    Anyways he doesn't look ego type unless he is Fi-ISFj.
    Yeah, I was surprised that he could be seen as ego.


    Quote Originally Posted by XoX View Post
    Some Fi-quadra type I guess because he is your dear friend.
    I have been good friends with an ISTj guy longer than with him; and I had an ESFj girlfriend for 2 years. So, not necessarily.
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    i would guess intp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Not sure what each of you is looking at. Are you all comparing him to other people you know, or are you trying to get a feel for the kind of person he is? Or analyzing specific features?
    All of that.

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    His type is indeed EII, as quite a few have suggested, including the Delta NF votes.
    He does remind of my INFj (ex) teacher to some extent, especially the second pic were he's smiling.

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    Of course you'll have to trust my typing for the purposes of VI validation.
    I have no problems with that.

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    No, he's married to a SEI. Benefit.
    Maybe that made him look like an ENTp to me.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    The second photo reminded me eerily of a combination between myself and you, Expat. His eyes in particular remind me of myself:




    ...but the expression is more like yours, I think. His nose reminded me instantly of Edward Furlong, who I think is probably Beta NF, but that's probably an inconsequential detail.

    Anyway, my only positive would be Ethical (mostly from the first picture). Probably intuitive, introvert>extrovert somehow....I'm going with IEI>EII>EIE>IEE.
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    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    The second photo reminded me eerily of a combination between myself and you, Expat. His eyes in particular remind me of myself:




    ...but the expression is more like yours, I think. His nose reminded me instantly of Edward Furlong, who I think is probably Beta NF, but that's probably an inconsequential detail.

    Anyway, my only positive would be Ethical (mostly from the first picture). Probably intuitive, introvert>extrovert somehow....I'm going with IEI>EII>EIE>IEE.
    super nf gilly
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    Wow, he does look like Tolle...maybe I should switch to EII>IEI
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Tolle is certainly INFx at the least; EII was a pretty strong consensus when we looked at videos of him and Oprah, a probable EIE.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    ENFP.

    i don't know why, but the first picture, in particular, just seems very ENFP to me. Everyone has a pensive look, but there's something subtley different about it in each type...
    I sort of just wish I could get a zoom in on pic #1, and also know what was happening around him.
    EII; E6(w5)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    Oh... I suck at Socionics, then.
    no. tolle's type was never agreed upon, we could all be wrong, and it's just one case.

    I do remember reading somewhere that social and extro is not the same,
    i think i know what you mean about social and extro/intro. Rick has an article on it somewhere. If you mean how "social" people are isn't necc. correlated to introversion/extroversion, then, i would agree.


    so I should probably go back to studying before typing people.
    this is silly. no reason to assume that you can't make a significant contribution. who knows how much other people know, anyway? this isn't surgery- there are no claims of expertise, objective measures of knowledge, or considerable damage if you make a mistake.
    it's people's own prerogative how seriously they take your comments.
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    Last edited by Suomea; 09-27-2008 at 05:18 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wittmont View Post
    That first pic is a very good Ni shot. The second is warm humanism, very typical INFj expression.
    I can see how the first picture would give that impression.


    Quote Originally Posted by Suomea View Post
    Some sort of Delta NF was my guess as well.... Probably would have leaned toward ENFp between the two, but really wouldn't have been able to tell.
    When I first typed him I wondered a bit about ENFp, but INFj it is. IJ temperament, Si hidden agenda rather than as dual-seeking, Te as dual-seeking rather than as hidden agenda, Se PoLR, Ti role -- everything fits really.
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    At first glance the second one looks a bit Se to me, like he has a bit of a sneer. I could be misreading it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    At first glance the second one looks a bit Se to me, like he has a bit of a sneer.
    Really? The thought would never occur to me. Interesting.
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    The pictures are of poor quality. I have an opinion on what the possible and impossible types are, but it is irritating that you can't V.I. him properly. The pictures should be as in the second photo where we can see him up front, but we should be able to see as much as possible of his facial structure, and that is much easier if he is closer to the camera. And it is better if he doesn't smile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    The pictures are of poor quality. I have an opinion on what the possible and impossible types are, but it is irritating that you can't V.I. him properly. The pictures should be as in the second photo where we can see him up front, but we should be able to see as much as possible of his facial structure, and that is much easier if he is closer to the camera. And it is better if he doesn't smile.
    the only thing I'd like to add to this is that he should be wearing a cowboy hat and holding a puppy... preferably a cute one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat View Post
    the only thing I'd like to add to this is that he should be wearing a cowboy hat and holding a puppy... preferably a cute one.
    No. That would make the V.I. more difficult.

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    ESE.

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