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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    So, the LSE just said the first connection that popped into his head rather than looking at the allusion to war and considering how that might relate to your personal experience, especially in the context of the rest of the poem. Is that right? If so, it might also partially relate to weak ethics.
    Yeah.

    Either way, it seems like the LSE didn't really get the point. That's more likely with STs than NFs in my experience, especially with something like poetry. (This doesn't apply with SLE literary critics like Harold Bloom really.)
    I generally agree, but I've never really had that problem with beta STs.

    When you say that Ni valuers can more easily align their subjective context with another person, do you mean that they can see life through someone else's perspective more easily? I'm wondering if that's the case, and if so, what the consequences of that are.
    It's something I've observed happening the most when two Ni-egos converse. For example, the first time I met an old EIE friend at a gathering, he and I ended up together alone on the balcony, smoking cigarettes. There was a brief silence, and then he said something like, "I wonder if the rain drops can see themselves on the way down." which sparked a two minute poetic discourse. The point is that we just "knew" what the other was saying without needing it to be made explicit. I've never had this with Si-valuers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    I dunno, you could just as easily interpret that as the LSE knowing what you were talking about and simply relating his own experience of "personal evolution in the context of relationships"--I mean war is a profound, perhaps the ultimate, expression of just that--band of brothers anyone? Sometimes in these conversations I really wonder who the shallow person is
    I'm not saying one can't draw external parallels to metaphors that bear on their meaning, but in this case it was intended as self-contained/standalone. And he wasn't really alluding to any "personal evolution" in his commentary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post

    I'm not saying one can't draw external parallels to metaphors that bear on their meaning, but in this case it was intended as self-contained/standalone. And he wasn't really alluding to any "personal evolution" in his commentary.
    how do you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    how do you know?
    Because, as per my friend's account, all he said was something along the lines of, "Hm, war... you mean like the conflict in the middle east?".
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    Because, as per my friend's account, all he said was something along the lines of, "Hm, war... you mean like the conflict in the middle east?".
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    Don't know why people type Eckhart Tolle EII and Osho IEI. Eckhart is much more animated than Osho, who makes jokes with a completely straight face. Osho gives me Fe PoLR vibes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Smoking rolled up dog crap would bring you more enlightenment than this guy could.
    So what do you think would enlighten people then?
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    ILI > IEI. Because this guy makes me feel like I want to beat him up.
    “I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    ILI > IEI. Because this guy makes me feel like I want to beat him up.
    If someone is going to beat him up then he is going to be beaten up.

    Like a tumbleweed rolls through the desert a man consisting of straws can not muster up real passion in his veins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COVID 007 View Post
    If someone is going to beat him up then he is going to be beaten up.

    Like a tumbleweed rolls through the desert a man consisting of straws can not muster up real passion in his veins.
    That's so cryptic and deep. Or so I assume, because such understanding is way too complicated for simple minds like mine.
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