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    The whole "Ni is about time, Si is about space" thing is taken way too literally by most. It only works in the most abstract sense, to the extent that it's not really even worth talking about, imo.

    Si Example 1: My ESE boss knows the city of Milwaukee extremely well. No matter where you are, you can call him and ask him how to get anywhere else, and based on the time of day and any construction/detours that he knows about he can tell you the fastest way to get there. He also knows how long it will take to get from any location to any other location. Yes, it's time... something we've generally thought of to be a Ni aspect... but it's not underlying. It's readily apparent. It's Si.

    Si Example 2: My ESE boss said to me one time, "If you're going to drive around with that later in your back seat, you should buckle it in so that if you come to a sudden stop it doesn't fly forward and hit you in the head." A lot of people would see this as Ni as well because it involves future events, but it's about the external dynamics of fields, not internal. It's Si.
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    he sounds cool.
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    He is.
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    Also, if you want to know the best place to shop for something or go out to eat, he always has excellent suggestions for those as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    The whole "Ni is about time, Si is about space" thing is taken way too literally by most. It only works in the most abstract sense, to the extent that it's not really even worth talking about, imo.

    Si Example 1: My ESE boss knows the city of Milwaukee extremely well. No matter where you are, you can call him and ask him how to get anywhere else, and based on the time of day and any construction/detours that he knows about he can tell you the fastest way to get there. He also knows how long it will take to get from any location to any other location. Yes, it's time... something we've generally thought of to be a Ni aspect... but it's not underlying. It's readily apparent. It's Si.

    Si Example 2: My ESE boss said to me one time, "If you're going to drive around with that later in your back seat, you should buckle it in so that if you come to a sudden stop it doesn't fly forward and hit you in the head." A lot of people would see this as Ni as well because it involves future events, but it's about the external dynamics of fields, not internal. It's Si.
    I realize I'm only role, but I'm good at both of these kinds of things illustrated in the examples above. Perhaps there's occasionally such a significant overlap between the working dynamics of and that they can produce almost identical results.

    Really, the only practical side of my nature involves things. Sensory recall, detail and attention to how external environmental characteristics might coincide or clash with subjective preferences.
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    My ESE husband sounds like your boss in that he can tell you the best routes and the most efficient ways to do things (including getting places but other things too). however, he's actually pretty bad at figuring out how long something is going to take. And this may just be a personal quirk of his but he almost always underestimates how long things take, even if he's experienced it in the past. One thing I hate is when he insists on trying short-cuts. He does this all the time without even knowing if it's going to work or not. Drives me crazy. Thinks he can come up with more efficient ways to get there and "beat" the system.

    Although I will often take the inefficient route or way of doing something (either because it's more familiar or more comfortable to me for some reason), I'm really good at predicting how long it's going to take and giving myself enough time. One thing that's nice is that we both hate to be late so between his route suggestions and my ability to kind of plan and know when we need to leave, we are almost never late as a couple (unless we end up taking one of his hair-brained short-cuts)
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    Ni is when I sit outside and receive messages from the moon.

    Si is when I come back in and eat 5 pieces of pizza.

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    I don't think anyone here has even said anything that could possibly sound like . I mean the people here are parading around talking about how.... "Oh, you're INTp or INFp because you have Introverted Intuition", yet no one even knows what the hell it is. Everytime someone even tries to define it, they end up saying something that is strikingly similar to what supposed to be. That doesn't make fucking sense, I'm sorry to say. Oh, ENTps look at the possibilities, but INTps look at the magical possibilities!!!!?!?! Does anyone else realize the absurdity to this?

    Sometimes you get the bullshit about how is supposed to be about time. What the hell does that mean? Everyone notices time in different ways. Everyone uses time in different ways. To say that is time makes NO FUCKING SENSE. The truth is, no one knows what the fuck is. They just keep saying shit that is completely retarded just because everyone else says it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta
    Sometimes you get the bullshit about how Ni is supposed to be about time. What the hell does that mean? Everyone notices time in different ways. Everyone uses time in different ways. To say that is time makes NO FUCKING SENSE. The truth is, no one knows what the fuck Ni is. They just keep saying shit that is completely retarded just because everyone else says it.
    Finally hitta says something that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    having a number of travel times memorized and referring back to them routinely is very Te+Si. you are mastering an understanding of a particular area of space -- and only noting changes as a routine form a maintenance in your understanding. note this understanding would be particularly useful if an Ne type suggests haphazardly to go eat lunch at X and then watch a movie at Y today. the knowledge of a niche area helps the Si type keep itself and the Ne type securely in equillibrium with that area as needs and wants arise.

    say instead your research has a wider geographical swath. say you're following the delivery rates and times of widgets at major ports. you have your own inventory of widgets to deliver and you want to extract the highest profits possible at each port. identifying opportunities for a time of delivery for your own widgets would be Ni-ing the Te you're constantly gathering.

    your boss's timings are external and physical because they mostly are a function of the geography and other physical characteristics of Milwaukee (speed limits, intersections, etc.) the widget deliveries instead involve an abstract understanding of price changes and their causes.
    Perfect.

    Let's also remember that knowledge of roads is also a function of something completely unrelated to socionics, namely experience with the roads themselves. I know a great number of roads in a ray of 40 kms from my home simply because I have traveled (by car or by bike) through them. Some people lack this knowledge because they tend to be less explorative. By this token I would expect extraverts and emotion-creating individuals to be the most expert on the matter, and introverted construct-creating individuals to be the least expert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta
    And what exactly are you doing now? Everything that a person does is due to external validation in some form, otherwise no one would do anything. And you can sit there and say what you want, your logic is flawed. There is a reason for everything action that a person purposely does, and everything that a person does is directly dependent on the outside world. You wouldn't even be on this forum if you weren't judging peoples actions to your ideas and statements.
    Since this is actually a logical response that doesn't aim to insult me, I will treat it as the first statement in a new conversation. What you have said is correct on a very general level, but it has very little correlation to my observations about you seeking validation. But I think you know that as well as I do, and are just trying to find a loophole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    Since this is actually a logical response that doesn't aim to insult me, I will treat it as the first statement in a new conversation. What you have said is correct on a very general level, but it has very little correlation to my observations about you seeking validation. But I think you know that as well as I do, and are just trying to find a loophole.
    If it wasn't for social validation then why in the hell would you be arguing with me? Every social interactions purpose is to produce a certain response within another person or a group of people. If that wasn't the reason, we wouldn't have social interactions. Social relationships give us confidence when the produce the correct emotional responses. This is for everybody, and there is really no way around it. I'd suggest taking a sociology class.
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