I say you are ISFp
http://www.socionics.com/prof/isfp.htm
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/typenine.asp
Which makes sense for you Minde being enneagram 9w1, which is also the peacemaker. You see INFj, is very different from the Peacemaker.
I was right the first time, my heart and soul told me litterally that you were ISFp and I didn't listen in an attempt to try to please you, but I am sure, without any doubt that you are indeed ISFp.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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She just wrote out hundreds of lines of text and you seriously change your thoughts on her type based on one line:
"ISFp because of this quote.. there's a lot of emphasis on how she feels rather then how another individual feels. A morbid fascination with horror films is ISFp"
Seriously, how do you not see a problem with this? I've read posts where you have said you know socionics very well...etc. While I have no doubt you might be able to VI people, your grasp is no better than mine it seems, and I've done well to make sure I don't understand it...lol.
Knowing how to VI people isn't really knowing socionics as far as I'm concerned. If you seriously can only type people using VI, why not stop trying to type them using socionics/MBTI/Enneagram...etc. if you don't have a picture...
I keep thinking how much of a fool you keep looking like with every other post in this thread. I'm pretty sure you've suggested, at least, 8/16 different types for Minde at some point. If someone can say one line of text and that causes you to retype them, why even type them in the first place?
People are human first, type second... Imagine if all people of each type were exactly the same, then the types of stuff you've pointed out could in some instances be true... til then though... bleh.
cracka, she doesnt know shit about V.I. either
maritsa leave her alone you bully
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" isand not
Since I know Minde a bit irl, ISFP is the only one that I can guarantee is not her type, as I've got to know a fair share of ISFP folks here throughout the years that I've been around (even met one or two irl). Your typing of her by that one sentence alone is absolutely ludicrous to me.
Her behavior towards you is probably the same as any type would have after constant interaction with you. It seems to me that you go out of your way to "start shit" with people... far from what I've seen as INFJ behavior...lol. You're so contradictory in things you say here it's quite laughable really.
You mentioned "zen" in a post before and I don't see how you could possibly not see the fact that you come across like a Tasmanian devil ripping apart the "zen" here... even if there's only a tiny shred of it. People who appreciate zen don't go around bumping heads with any/everyone they come in contact with. I applaud the fact that Minde can converse with you in a somewhat civil manner the way you treat her here. I know I couldn't handle you as well as she has.
As for Minde or you being an INFJ, I'd never make a post like this toward Minde or any other person I've come to know as an INFJ here... which, as far as I'm concerned, leaves you the odd person out as someone who's supposed to be INFJ...
My type is VERY easy to figure out, that's not saying much...lol. Just because you got one right (which 90% of this forum probably agrees on anyway) doesn't mean that every typing you do is correct. If that were the case, when do you know you're correct? The fact that you've changed Minde's type more than a handful of times kinda speaks volumes about your ability to type. I don't get why you can't accept that you and her may be the same type?Originally Posted by Maritsa33
lol, much like everyone pointed out the INFJ clues to you that you seemed to skip right past... hahaha, seriously. In reality, I pretty much said I support any type for her other than ISFp just after you mentioned it. As far as I'm concerned it's the one you've suggested so far that makes the least sense to me, so I'm not about to go looking for ways to validate that because it's just "so wrong" to me.
Maritsa, why are you ignoring the mountain of evidence and focusing on small, subjective, and largely out-of-context details?
Based on your words and actions here, it is very easy to believe that you simply don't want me to be INFj, and thus are actively ignoring evidence that I am an INFj and trying very hard to find any shred of evidence that I'm not. Do you disagree with this assessment? If so, why?
Please keep in mind that you are not the epitome and standard of all INFjs in the world. I do not need to relate to you on every level to share the same socionics type. Even in statistical terms, if INFjs do only comprise 1% of the global population, it is unreasonable to think that all INFjs must think, feel, and act just as one individual does; to do so severely limits possibilities and perceptions. Please consider this. I say it out of kind regard.
I must say, though, it does indeed feel like you're persecuting me and purposefully misunderstanding me. It feels like you are ignoring all this evidence that points toward INFj simply because you do not like me or want to associate with me. It seems you feel I am too "different" from you to be acceptable. True, this may be a misperception on my part, but that's the impression you're giving me thus far.
Thanks for the compliments, by the way. But the best compliment would be to stop trying to push me away and start accepting me for who I am - an INFj who is slightly different from you.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
I am not ignoring anything, I am examining the evidence before me. The evidence is presented below. Please VI sideways, with your face covered if you want everyone to see if you are indeed a J type.
Dual type
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Trust me when I say this:
- You are wrong about Minde being SEI. (Just like you were wrong about her being LSE and SEE and IEI)
- Minde is actually EII
- Your methods for going about typing her are rather poor and haphazard
- I think you should stop trying to type her, and other people as well, because you need to seriously reevaluate what is going on here.
You are far more concerned with intellectual stimulation and sharing whatever opinion you have about people than trying to understand what is going on.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
No.
Trust me when I say this:
- You are wrong about Minde being SEI. (Just like you were wrong about her being LSE and SEE and IEI)
- Minde is actually EII
- Your methods for going about typing her are rather poor and haphazard
- I think you should stop trying to type her, and other people as well, because you need to seriously reevaluate what is going on here.
You are far more concerned with intellectual stimulation and sharing whatever opinion you have about people than trying to understand what is going on.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
No
Trust me when I say this:
- You are wrong about Minde being SEI. (Just like you were wrong about her being LSE and SEE and IEI)
- Minde is actually EII
- Your methods for going about typing her are rather poor and haphazard
- I think you should stop trying to type her, and other people as well, because you need to seriously reevaluate what is going on here.
You are far more concerned with intellectual stimulation and sharing whatever opinion you have about people than trying to understand what is going on.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
lol I'd like to use some Se on you right now
oh yes, and
Trust me when I say this:
- You are wrong about Minde being SEI. (Just like you were wrong about her being LSE and SEE and IEI)
- Minde is actually EII
- Your methods for going about typing her are rather poor and haphazard
- I think you should stop trying to type her, and other people as well, because you need to seriously reevaluate what is going on here.
You are far more concerned with intellectual stimulation and sharing whatever opinion you have about people than trying to understand what is going on.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
maritsa, take it from an Se valuer(me)
You have NO clue what Se is
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is
furthermore your observations in this thread have been moronic, seriously, you went from estj for her to isfp? is this a joke? can you not tell the difference in quadra values? how is it you could have mistyped so offly? maybe its because you dont know what your talking about? would you please catch a clue? please? seriously?
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is
they dont look like rational types at all
and I dont see how they could mistake themselves for those types unless they know virtually nothing about theory
are you retarded
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is
maritsa = lmao retard
I like how Maritsa puts my name in caps, it makes me feel so special and sexy.
Yes she is.
How so?
Maritsa, since you've gone through so many types for Minde in a short span of time, you've no right to be taken seriously on the matter for at least a week - in fact, you've forfeited the issue entirely, because this post used to read that your final decision was that Minde is INFj:
At this point, declaring Minde to be any other type amounts to breaking a promise. Find another battle, you can't fight this one anymore.Dear Minde,
You are ISFp type.
Love,
Maritsa
By the way, I think you're a wonderful writer.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
I think it's already been pointed out by Minde that she would rather not post photos. That is her decision and I personally don't understand why you can't respect that.
This to me makes you come across as a bully, regardless of what type you are yourself.
Maritsa you are a massive Fe leading.
Minde, please ignore Maritsa.
Do us a favor.
Hey you see it too, cheers
Filatova's EIE
EII INFj
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This is what I suspect as well, and I've made this point before in another thread. Either that or she is truly bipolar/manic and in denial. The consistently high post count, week after week, is key. It's unrelenting and out of character IMO for an INFj to communicate like this to this degree, day and night - and in direct contrast to most if not all self-typed INFj. To say Maritsa is the only true INFj, statistically, is unrealistic. Maritsa very much wants to be perceived as the hub of information all things wise. I don't know of any INFj, even if they are truly the hub of wisdom, really wishes to make this a public announcement.
Although, I don't follow Minde's posts regularly, what I have I have observed is that what she writes and how she expresses herself is consistent with other self-typed INFjs.
Loving socionics is not exclusive to INFjs. Many types are fascinated and passionate about the theory (e.g. Aushra-ENTp; DarkAngelFireWolf69-INTj). Why do you think so many members come back to 16types? It's not just for the socializing. How each type expresses this passion is different. In your case, you outwardly express it freely, frequently and verbally @ an average rate of 250 posts/week (). IMO an INFj may love socionics to the same degree as you, but, expresses it quietly. They may be more verbal in instances when they are morally offended.
From my viewpoint, I see you wanting so much to be the 'Mentor' ENFj, much like a budding Oprah Winfrey; your hidden agenda is. You want people to believe you are the Mentor to lead them to the light, that you sometimes turn aggressive and persistent to make your point. Being Ej, you would still fall nicely as a rational based on your neck theory.
I'm also reminded of this exchange from socionics.com: (i am an enfj and have been in love with an istp girl since high school.). Notice how the ENFj continues to post - on and on.
Yeah.
Diana's objective analysis makes sense, in terms of whether or not ISFp fits me. And, anyway, I've already detailed the description that fits me best - I don't want to waste my time detailing all of the 16 types' descriptions for someone who refuses to listen to or believe me no matter what I say.
You are right, Ryu - for as much good as it does for me to say anything to her, I might as well say nothing at all. Which is sad.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
I think everyone does. It's so ridiculously obvious that she's not an EII, it's unreal.
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