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    I watched one of his videos last night, and now SLE seems less likely to me than ever.

    The reason that LSI makes sense is the manner in which he compliments people. He doesn't sound like he's trying to flatter people, he's just point blank stating what he likes about someone.

    It makes SLE seem pretty unlikely, since they aren't generally so... complimentary... and the way he does it is inconsistent with LIE (an LIE would most likely try to offer a practical reason why the trait mentioned is a good thing).

    SEE could work, in terms of the quality I'm referencing, but SEE's don't generally offer compliments the way Ezra does. (SEE's are usually more like "that's cool" rather than "I like that", though I'm not sure this explanation is descriptive enough for people to understand the distinction.)

    The only reason that I'm doubting LSI atm is because it seems like Ezra is appreciated and understood better by the Gammas here than the Betas. It also seems that he clicks better with the Gammas as well.

    I also definitely think he's a Positivist. My top pick atm is LSI, followed by SEE (I don't think a Ti PoLR makes sense though).


    Anyways, those are just a few thoughts.
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    Is Ezra LSI?
    No.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    I believe he could be LSI. He has given me good arguments otherwise but I still think he is. Especially the Extroverted Intuition. He can't stand any of my ambiguity.

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    Does he agree that you're ILE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Does he agree that you're ILE?
    I believe so yes. The agreement came from my Fi Polr.

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    Yeah, I completely agree with LSI.
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    lately I think LSE
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
    E3 (probably 3w4)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina View Post
    lately I think LSE
    Definitely more likely than LSI.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    I'm almost "settled" on LSI at this point... but I have a question: Leon, have you read any SEE descriptions, and if so, how well do you think they apply to Ezra?
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    Well, after reading one on the Wikisocion it doesn't really match up.

    The introverted logic talks about not liking rules. Ezra (though he doesn't revel in making them) he can work with rules and often maintains them in his life. If he has a responsibility he will happily perform it. He isn't really an excessive spender and I think he does like a systematic timetable.

    The introverted intuition talks about 'never ending energy'. Though he does work hard and achieves, I have seen patches of laziness, or times when he will change his plans to account for a problem.

    Besides...



    do I have to say anything else?
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    The behavior you're describing certainly does sound far more like a LSI than a SEE. IJ > EP, too.

    I see Se creative types as "budgeting" energy. EJ's tend to feel restless if they're sitting around, but IJ's are happy to rest when they feel it is appropriate to do so. However, when it's time to accomplish something, Se creatives can work tirelessly until the project is complete. They don't spend energy recklessly like Se dominants do, but instead direct their energy toward desired ends. "Waste not, want not" seems to be how Se creatives view energy expenditure.

    Se creatives need the direction of Ni creatives because they need to know that they are directing that energy wisely. They want their work to have a purpose, and they want to know that there's a long term plan that they can count on. If there is a long term plan that they can believe in, they can put forth a great deal of energy advancing towards it.
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    Hmm, Ezra does work towards things and he will probably have something to say about this.

    For me however, the phrase 'waste not, want not' doesn't fit Ezra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Saturn View Post
    Hmm, Ezra does work towards things and he will probably have something to say about this.

    For me however, the phrase 'waste not, want not' doesn't fit Ezra.
    I only meant in terms of energy expenditure, basically that Se creatives aren't as wasteful with energy as Se dominants or EJ's are.

    The LSI I knew best certainly did do some things in excess, but I guess I just wrote it off to his being a young man.

    Hmm... I guess the "waste not want not" thing could just be my perspective of ESI's in LIE/ESI duality.
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    Based on the pictures, LSI seems highly unlikely. My LSI mom would never be caught doing anything that funny/spontaneous because of the extreme fear of spontaneity and total lack of . I can see an SLE doing that, it would be slightly out of character but not really when you think of being the suggestive function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesy View Post
    Based on the pictures, LSI seems highly unlikely. My LSI mom would never be caught doing anything that funny/spontaneous because of the extreme fear of spontaneity and total lack of . I can see an SLE doing that, it would be slightly out of character but not really when you think of being the suggestive function.
    We don't know the story behind those photos though. He could have been... drunk... or something like that. He does seem a bit of a clown though, generally speaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    We don't know the story behind those photos though. He could have been... drunk... or something like that. He does seem a bit of a clown though, generally speaking.
    As I can see here, he has Mr Saturn as a friend and he's an ILE. Does that mean that they are good friends with super ego relations? I'm not saying it's impossible but I see it as something that should be considered.

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    eie. he looks like a fat faced tom waits
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath View Post
    eie. he looks like a fat faced tom waits
    you think Tom Waits is an EIE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    ezra, your thoughts?
    About what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I remember him saying "irrational Ti" in the past, back when he thought of you as SLE.
    You remember who saying "irrational Ti" back when who thought of who as an SLE? And so what? What about "irrational Ti"? Why is it important that you remember him saying "irrational Ti"? Is it become it is laughable that he even entertained the notion of irrational Ti, which doesn't exist? (Maybe he was just talking about Ti creatives.)

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    I would imagine that maintaining the army's morale in check and loyalty among the officers is a task better suited to SEEs. Especially pre-industrial revolution and pre-mechanized warfare.
    Yeah, back when people waved swords over their heads and "inspired the men" with a rousing speech about the beautiful green pastures of their homeland.

    Wake up to the 21st century, jxrtes. This is modern warfare.


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    Bleh. I don't know, SEE could work, too. I do think he's a Positivist though. And he does seem to get along best with the Gammas here, and it seems that they understand him well.

    I'm not sure. It's odd to be torn between LSI and SEE, no doubt... I don't think there's a clear indication that he's one or the other though. I think I may have a better idea after I meet him.
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    What's the problem with an LSI that likes to rest? Activity level is often something very individual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    What's the problem with an LSI that likes to rest? Activity level is often something very individual.
    Is this question for me?

    In an earlier post I addressed that: EJ's tend to feel restless if they're sitting around, but IJ's are happy to rest when they feel it is appropriate to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Is this question for me?

    In an earlier post I addressed that: EJ's tend to feel restless if they're sitting around, but IJ's are happy to rest when they feel it is appropriate to do so.
    Yeah, so what Leon said isn't against Ezra being LSI, so there's no reason to think he might be SEE due to the fact that he likes to watch films-rest-etc etc

    At the very least, Ezra is clearly a J type. This is quite obvious from everything he said about his life: he's very orderly, he has his life quite planned, he likes being in the military (an institution which emphasize J-qualities overall, and ISTj particularly), he likes everything to be clear and unambiguos. All these traits are in stark contrast with SEE.
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    To paraphrase an American president, 'I knew a ESFp, and that, sir, is no ESFp.'



    I believe that he's SLE... w/e, I'll explain if anyone wants me to.

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