ILE only.
I'm not sure but, usually wander around thinking I guess, that I am superior, unique and just generally different. But SEI's, just seem better than me. And I never think that about anyone. Odd. It's not good.
ENTps do you see ISFps as better than yourself?
ILE only.
I'm not sure but, usually wander around thinking I guess, that I am superior, unique and just generally different. But SEI's, just seem better than me. And I never think that about anyone. Odd. It's not good.
ENTp... love it
3w2
This should be in Alpha, oops!
ENTp... love it
3w2
We won't hold it against you....I mean you are flawed after all
<3
Hello, my name is Bee. Pleased to meet you .
I might be ILE...
In some ways I think they're better than me. In other ways, I think I am better than them. We're strong in different areas - that's sort of the point. The strengths cover each other.
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I pity your souls
I tend to see SEI's better skilled in areas I wish I had skills. They have no problems talking to people they don't know. They are down to earth, and will come up with practical solutions I would have never have thought of to problems. They are great at artistics things. I like the level of detail they give when discussing something that happen to them.
Also I've seen them get distracted by something, taking place elsewhere in the room, in the middle of conversation and come back right where they left off without missing a beat. Sometimes even hearing what I said while they were distracted, and shooting back with a response. If I did that I would totally forget what was going on, and start talking about something new.
Oh they are very intelligent too.
ILE
That is entirely untrue. Once the other person starts talking or there is an opening when I can start talking, I can talk with Fe and such.They have no problems talking to people they don't know.
Last month, after I took the ACT, there was this cute girl who probably had a cell phone. It took me literally 5 minutes to work up the courage to talk to her. So, no, I have problems.
D-SEI9w1
This is me and my dual being scientific together
You are right. What I mean was I percieve the use of Fe and such by SEI as being natural. Therefore I get the sense SEIs talking with strangers is easier for them . I was generalizing. However I do not expect how I precieve something you are doing to be entirely true from your perspective. Especially with a common, isolated situation of a male wanting to talk to a cute girl. Lots of males get that type of anxiety.
On the other hand, I sporadically talk to people I do not know. I also sporadically talk to people I do know. It's a Fi polr thing. Sometimes I just don't know if I am being well recieved while I feel I should always be well recieved. It is an interest thing too. I tend to talk to people only if I find something unique about them that no one has notice.
I should also note when I refer to SEIs I am talking mostly about female SEIs. I know quite a few of them. I only know one male SEI who was my manager at my last job. Quite different because of pressure to gender specific roles society tends to place on us.
ILE
Totally not easy!!!
I think we can appear to be naturals at talking to starngers, when inside we are most likely shitting ourselves.
Hello, my name is Bee. Pleased to meet you .
I would be interested to know more about that.
ILE
This is comforting
I'm not sure about others but I don't shit myself talking to strangers, I just don't feel like I can be arsed sometimes. Wish I could.
ENTp... love it
3w2
they say we feel unworthy of our duals. this is diagnostic of type and relation i think.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
I feel that way actually sometimes. Who would want someone as imperfect and weird as me?
D-SEI
This is me and my dual being scientific together
I really must some stirring up Kam and Allie.....oh but it's so easy!!
Dammit I want hugs all round- hugs for both of you, or no applesauce!!
Ah well, you wi n some you lose some. I think I'll sit on the fence and like you both. Kam relax dude, and I will try harder not to stir you.
I know what you mean- I do feel kinda...err...nuts..most of the time. I guess some people are into that though?
Hello, my name is Bee. Pleased to meet you .
I know what's going on
Allie he's still bent up about your joking over his religion thing a week or so back. I think you may have inadvertently wounded his ethics by playing on the idea of no religion in that whole fight.
Correct me if I'm wrong Kam?
I'm an athiest/agnositc/don't care enough to think about it myself, so I'm pretty much sitting on the fence observing.
Hello, my name is Bee. Pleased to meet you .
It's ok, he's a teenager, an SEI one at that. He's allowed to be full of angst
I know I was at his age- hell I was totally nuts at his age!
I once walked 3 hours to the next town because I was grumpy at my parents at age 16. On my own, in 40 degree C heat. With my phone turned off. Hardcore. Lol.
*Note that lol was directed at myself, not Kam. Trying not to be condescending here just because I'm older. Possibly failing at it. But yeah.
Hello, my name is Bee. Pleased to meet you .
Nope, if this were true, I'd be pretty pitiful. It'd be pretty sad to be me.I know what's going on
Allie he's still bent up about your joking over his religion thing a week or so back. I think you may have inadvertently wounded his ethics by playing on the idea of no religion in that whole fight.
Correct me if I'm wrong Kam?
I'm an athiest/agnositc/don't care enough to think about it myself, so I'm pretty much sitting on the fence observing.
However, there are ideas that I have been playing over in my mind over the past week that I don't feel like feeding to the wolves today. You could call it angsting, but I think it is good for you at this age. Makes you think.
THINK.
D-SEI
This is me and my dual being scientific together
lol your dual, semi dual, illusionary, or activity partner!!
I feel that way actually sometimes. Who would want someone as imperfect and weird as me?
i actually have felt unworthy of my dual, activity, and illusionary, but not my semi dual for some reason. i think it's because they are logical....they can't really guilt me or something.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Ah exactly! I never feel inferior to my semi dual... I can be me more than anything it seems... but things go wrong.
ENTp... love it
3w2
what goes wrong?
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Bump IT!
I think it is democratic. Respect yourself as you are and I'll do the same for myself, please.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
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No. I'm better than SEI's.
Can you say it a little louder please? I can’t hear you!
Well I meant in general. Individually, I am equal to everyone else. I'm better than all SEI's, except for all the ones that I know.
Oh? So are you better then me hmm? Am I not your equal?
"If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?"
Noooooo, i'm equal to you. When we're talking.
“O, wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as others see us!
It wad frae monie a blunder free us,
An' foolish notion.”
― Robert Burns,
Noooo... Poor SEI.
The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice
-Krishna
I'll seize the opportunity given by this topic to give an advice to young ILEs.
In my country, schoolteachers entering the profession have to spend a fraction of their work time to follow some job-related courses.
I happen to pass in front of the school in which the courses take place, when I go jogging.
Every time, I find a peculiar concentration of young (23-26) SEI women. Almost all well-dressed, attractive, and non-accompanied.
"Please officer you don't understand, I creep by the elementary school to look at the teachers, not the children!"
Chronic "grass is always greener" syndrome
Best response. Someone please sticky above chatbox for a day. Fucking hilarious.
SEI's as elementary school teachers. Yes, it seems to happen. One male seemed to have great time when I made parody versions of magazines back and other pupils just made regular ones.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
Joinif you dare https://matrix.to/#/#The16Types:matrix.org
Actually the place I was referring to exclusively accomodates schoolteachers, there are no children there.
You might find a similar place in your town. SEI's often make terrible choices when selecting a life-long partner. At least they'll have duality.
It's bigotry to say one personality type is better than another. However, if a person spends their weekends feeding the homeless it stands to reason that that person is, perhaps, more philanthropic than the person who spends their weekends gossiping.
Many ILEs try to occupy the high ground where they might appear superior without having to express it and SEIs like to build castles on high ground to protect the occupants - a match made closest to heaven. As useful and indispensable as acolytes may be, many ILEs never seem to give them their full due, as if to say: "Without me, they'd be nothing." However, most that I'd gotten to know were rather bright scientific types.
a.k.a. I/O
@Rebelondeck, I see this same behavior in the manner in which many LIEs treat ESIs. It's as if the LIE is saying, "The ESI is an OK person and is sometimes useful to me, but they are really nothing without me." I mean, you got that exactly right.
When I first saw this behavior in LIEs, I came to understand why most LIEs, in general, are considered to be complete assholes and shitheads.
In my own life, I was lucky to have an ESI approach me in 8th grade who wanted to talk about telescopes. I thought, "This guy looks weird and awkward as hell, but who cares? He's interested in the subject that I love best."
Then, gradually, I stopped seeing his appearance and fell in love with the way we interacted. Lol.
Now, if that had never happened to me, I'd just think that most of these ESIs can't think very well and occupy most of their brain space with thoughts of how they were wronged, which is not that attractive, TBH. But the really fucking weird thing is, once I'm talking to these guys, the interaction sweeps away all thoughts of discordance and I can easily see that they have most of the parts that I need to get along in the world.
@Adam Strange I don't see confident ESIs putting up with such behaviour for very long even though some that lack confidence have been known to be doormats. Now, confident SEIs, although often self-righteous, don't seem to look for independence from overlord-attitudes so long as relatively safe environments are provided.
a.k.a. I/O
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