Ok now THAT is disrispectful.Originally Posted by hkkmr
Maybe why some of us get the impression that when he disputes our type conclusion he's insulting our intelligences.
Ok now THAT is disrispectful.
Maybe why some of us get the impression that when he disputes our type conclusion he's insulting our intelligences.
That is more understandable than the initial impression I received.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
This is just my opinion, but this is how I'd go as far as each type
LII: Logos (thehotelambush, ms. kensington)
ILE: hkkmr (steventp)
SEI: dolphin (theMime., Kamangir, bee)
ESE: cracka
IEI: Baby (glamourama, esper, mistuii, aka-kitsune, Loki)
SLE: Herzy
EIE: Kristiina (lefty)
LSI: potatospirit
ILI: niffweed (reyn_til_runa)
SEE: liveandletlive
LIE: (none that I feel confident enough to put here)
ESI: Diana
EII: Minde (rockclimber)
IEE: Rick (Schrödinger's Cat, Slacker Mom, meatburger)
SLI: force my hand (Winterpark, LokiVanguard, iAnnAu)
LSE: (none that I feel confident enough to put here)
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
Fair enough, but I just think it would have been more productive and conducive of constructive debate/conversation if you stuck less controversial typings on there. Just mentioning this because you often have interesting ideas and the fact that you use these ideas to start threads shows that you'd like to read what others think of those ideas. That being said your threads often get side-tracked/hijacked quite quickly and go off-topic, which in turn dissuades newcomers to the thread, thus depriving you of potentially stimulating conversations (i.e. you made a thread where you listed people's subtypes a few weeks ago and at first I was excited because subtypes are a fascinating topic-especially because my understanding of them is still in its infancy- but to my dismay (and yours too I believe) other people hi-jacked it quicker than you could say jihad and proceeded to crash it like a 747 on 9/11. When I finally arrived all that was left was the remnants of those that jumped to their doom alongside raining ash and the echo of an imaginary priest's rasping voice providing the thread's last rites.
INFp-Ni
the fact is that in both cases of eunice and snegledmaca i can't think of a better representative of the overall message of the type. that's why i selected them. you're probably right that this causes some dissent and bickering, but, well, so be it. should i select somebody who i think fits the type less closely in order to avoid this kind of argumentation?
also, a side note: i'm rather astonished by the number of people that dismiss bionicgoat as a very good example of SEI and expat as LIE (the latter is less pervasive, but it's surprising nonetheless). in both cases -- and this may be jumping to conclusions -- i think it's related to an excess infusion of copycat-based thought based on ashton's interpretations: people see all of the bickering about expat as LIE, as well as others, and are led to wonder despite ashton's arguments apparently holding no water anyway.
in my mind it is a sign of forum regression that we should be so dependent upon others' interpretations.
Anyways finally got around to doing one!
ISFp-Fe: Kamangir
ISFp-Si: Bionicgoat
ENTp-Ne: Sunshinelovely
ENTp-Ti: JRiddy
ESFj: cracka
INTj-Ne: Ms. Kensington
INTj-Ti: tcaudillg
INFp-Fe: Baby
INFp-Ni: aka-kitsune
ESTp-Ti: Herzy
ESTp-Se: Ezra
ISTj- PotatoSpirit
ENFj: Kristiina
INTp-Te: Niffweed
INTp-Ni: Jonathan
ESFp- liveandletlive
ISFj-Se: Discojoe
ISFj-Fi: Diana
ENTj-Te: Expat
ENTj-Ni: imfd95
ISTp-Te: Jessica129
ISTp-Si: lokivanguard
ENFp-Ne: Meatburger
ENFp-Fi: ?
INFj- rockclimber
ESTj- ?
Last edited by misutii; 04-29-2008 at 04:27 AM.
I started doing my list and it was harder to choose "undisputed" people than I first thought it would be, lol, now I see where you're coming from so I'll eat my words. And yah I agree with Bionicgoat and Expat, it's funny they're both on my list which I was working on at the same time you were replying
He's totally SEI.
baby would do; perhaps that was an oversight. all of the others i haven't talked to or seen enough from to be very confident.
the fact is that from what i've seen, eunice, vague, and hitta are the people that i'm most confident are IEI, although conceded that hitta is a shitty example of the type as a whole. truthfully i think eunice is a very good example of how IEIs act in a lot of ways; i've talked to her some and i'm totally flummoxed as to why people dispute this typing. i think anybody with a good understanding of the way that IEIs act overall should be able to see signs of Ni and Fe from her.
Last edited by glam; 03-02-2011 at 04:30 PM. Reason: removing my quote ;)
Good list misutii!!
unefille, I believe, may be a good example of ENFp-Fi
fo sho, SEI sensory subtype
yep, he's a great example of how SEI's should behave.
D-SEI
This is me and my dual being scientific together
No one thinks I am a model ENTp??????
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
Nope, now stop trying to guilt meNo one thinks I am a model ENTp??????
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I pity your souls
hmm I don't know him/her well enough to make any assertions though... in all honesty I need some help with Delta though so feel free to make more suggestions! Like give me examples of who you think is an INFj-Ni vs INFj-Fi and other ENFp-Fis! The thing is I have quite a few people typed as INFj and ENFp as can be seen here: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?t...sutii/userlist but in regards to subtypes I'm at a loss!
your list also attempts to take subtypes into account, so its longer. that's another reason why its harder. for certain types if you wanted to try to come up with undisputed typings you could do it.
however, i think that all of my base typings were as strong as i could possibly make them in terms of how confident i was of that person being a representative of that type (except maybe for minde; that one might need some work). picking anybody other than eunice, for example, would have led to a less confident response.
i agree with niff about BG. but i don't have an alternative. maybe SEE or SLI. he always has it out for me because he thinks i always try to act super-perfect and upright, but this isn't the case and is simply miscommunication.
asd
Hmm, hard to say. When I think of ENTp's I think of you and hkkmr, if only because of the stickam contact. You two seem to come at things from different angles, so I guess I thought of him as more a Ti sub and you an Ne sub? I don't know if either of you would agree, however.No one thinks I am a model ENTp??????
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
actually i was going to put you on my list as I'm 99.99% sure you're ENTp but I'm also 00.99% sure what subtype you are so sorry but you didn't make the final cut, but better luck next time!! lolNo one thinks I am a model ENTp??????
?
oops. i misread your post. i'm astonished that you think he is sei.
asd
in all honesty, i'm not sure you know me well enough either to conclude INFp-Ni.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
Is it working?Nope, now stop trying to guilt me
I agree. I definitely think I'm Ne Subtype.
No!
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
Fine, I'll kick you off my list.
lol
No one will EVER know implied's REAL type!
Soooooo mysterious...maybe she's a really good actress and she's just been playing with our minds the whole time!
Or maybe she's an IxTp.
She's an INFp-Ni on the denial stage (we all have to go through it) so not yet ready to be a model, despite being on stage... ok shitty pun I know but I can't help it
NO (definitely not heath)
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
why?
Well first, I would rather have someone more active as a forum member than snegledmaca as any type model ( + her and others' uncertainty about her type) , secondly, I don't think heath is even an SLI, even if he was, definitely not a good example imo
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
snegledmaca has 1700 posts. that's not enough for you?
too bad.
I do think bionicgoat is a good example of SEI, and anamericancer as ILE, ftr (though didn't include them in my initial list).
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
Sorry about that, we ve probably been active in different time periods, that's a bad argument, I take it back. But I still don't think she would be a good model. (I don't care that much actually)
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
It's still very poor for friends.
D-SEI
This is me and my dual being scientific together
she relates very closely to what i talk about in terms of Ni and Se and has a predominantly Ni focus, she has an overall entirely beta style of communication (with regards to how she talks about socionics, and her interactions with ashton and socionix) -- which is reflective of the way she responds to Ti/Te -- she doesn't seem to be a delta type at all from the things she talks about. she seems not to understand the beta/delta quadras or any of the types within at all.
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Last edited by Suomea; 09-27-2008 at 04:35 PM.
Suomea
Am I a bad example of an SEI?
lol I think I am. I think I'm an SEI but I seem to have picked up a lot of behaviors that aren't typical of SEIs.
yeah - like SHIRKING YOUR HOMEWORK
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
don't your eyes hurt from rolling so much?yeah - like SHIRKING YOUR HOMEWORK
You know the idea of model forum members would naturally exclude people, so if you are not on the list, it does not somehow mean that niffweed (or others) thinks that you are not of a given type, but just that there are some members of a given type that are perhaps more visible on the forum that have stereotypical type qualities that make them relatively easy to recognize.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
I just meant what logos said.
Some people are EASY to type.
Others aren't.
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