There were a few typing threads a few years back, posted by Gilly and Joy. I'm interested in people's current opinions.
EIE
SLE
LIE
Alpha
Beta
Gamma
Delta
Se valuing type
Non-Se valuing type
EJ
IJ
EP
IP
There were a few typing threads a few years back, posted by Gilly and Joy. I'm interested in people's current opinions.
I don't know who he is, but I recall seeing him on stickam before, for a wee while, and I thought he was ENTj.
Ni-ENTj. Doesn't seem to value Fe as well.
On a side note, I have enjoyed reading his posts.
EIE > SLE
explain how he is Fe egoOriginally Posted by Joy
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I have no idea what type Ashton is. I wouldn't know. Not because my knowledge of the theory is lacking, but because my knowledge of him is. I've seen a character. I haven't really seen him though.
Doesn't respond to Fe, Ni Se is obvious. ENTj
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I think there's a reason why I like Pinocchio so much, or hate him. Can't tell the difference but it's pleasing me. Good work Pinocchio. It's kind of scary though, just the whole idea of this happening.
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pinnochio, are you suggesting asston is ESI?
Terrible suggestion..
I think you've gone a little too far into your crackpot head and you're getting really disoriented. Do you spend the day with constant, racing thoughts?
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Ashton is clearly ENTj. The Ni-Se is blatantly obvious from his writing style (the way he illustrates ideas) and the energy he conveys. I have spoken with him on the phone and it was clear he is no Fe-valuer.
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If Ashton used Fe, it would certainly be Beta-Fe. Personally, I think he enjoys that kind of thing; I think he enjoys stirring up conflict, for his own personal entertainment. I think he has the ability to rouse this same kind of conflict-admiration in other people. This doesn't necessarily mean he's Fe ego, but it does mean he prefers Se/Ni over Ne/Si (although I don't think anyone, even he, doubts that). In my opinion, he's either Fe ego or Se ego; I see very little evidence for Te ego or his even giving a shit about Te.
you're right - it is related to Se/Ni. However, he has little understanding and liking for any type of Fe. That function is simply suppressed with him. And he very much 'gives a shit' about Te; you can see it in all of his explanations.Originally Posted by Ezra
I have spoken with him many times and it is obvious he isn't my mirror or dual....compare him to someone like herzy...she doesn't have that same sense of control and, to some degree, intensity as he does. Then compare him to bulletsanddoves (maybe not the best example, as being gay can add points to Fe lol)...ashton is far more contained than him.
I'm not even sure what the arguments for ESTp are?...impulsive and intense = Se ego?
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i pity you and your blind devotion to ashtonian thought, strrrng.
Yes.
Regardless of Ashton's type, my impression is that some people have an Alpha-only view of Fe.
Look at what Filatova wrote about the EIE version of Fe (and she's not alone):
I think this describes Ashton rather well, but even if you disagree, it shows that Fe is not just about taking someone else's emotion in consideration in a "nice Fe" kind of way.Originally Posted by Filatova
It seems to me that the disagreement has to do with whether or not you see Jung's typology as the "true" description of functions. In that case, the bigger question is not anyone's particular type, but how we understand socionics.
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, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
With her (filatova) description in mind, I see Blair as a prototypical ENFj.
I though Ashton was ENTj from the web cam, so ENFj wouldn't be impossible either.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html