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    There were a few typing threads a few years back, posted by Gilly and Joy. I'm interested in people's current opinions.

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    I don't know who he is, but I recall seeing him on stickam before, for a wee while, and I thought he was ENTj.

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    Ni-ENTj. Doesn't seem to value Fe as well.

    On a side note, I have enjoyed reading his posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice View Post
    Ni-ENTj. Doesn't seem to value Fe as well.

    On a side note, I have enjoyed reading his posts.
    What disgusting things to say.

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    EIE > SLE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    EIE > SLE
    explain how he is Fe ego
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    I have no idea what type Ashton is. I wouldn't know. Not because my knowledge of the theory is lacking, but because my knowledge of him is. I've seen a character. I haven't really seen him though.
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    Doesn't respond to Fe, Ni Se is obvious. ENTj

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    I think there's a reason why I like Pinocchio so much, or hate him. Can't tell the difference but it's pleasing me. Good work Pinocchio. It's kind of scary though, just the whole idea of this happening.

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    pinnochio, are you suggesting asston is ESI?
    Terrible suggestion..
    I think you've gone a little too far into your crackpot head and you're getting really disoriented. Do you spend the day with constant, racing thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    You like me for Ne you hate me for Ti . And I think you still have the image of Col. Landa in your mind
    Yeah I think you should put that one back or get a new one. That picture and "Vajra" isn't doing much for you.

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    Ashton is clearly ENTj. The Ni-Se is blatantly obvious from his writing style (the way he illustrates ideas) and the energy he conveys. I have spoken with him on the phone and it was clear he is no Fe-valuer.
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    I notice the same thing.

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    If Ashton used Fe, it would certainly be Beta-Fe. Personally, I think he enjoys that kind of thing; I think he enjoys stirring up conflict, for his own personal entertainment. I think he has the ability to rouse this same kind of conflict-admiration in other people. This doesn't necessarily mean he's Fe ego, but it does mean he prefers Se/Ni over Ne/Si (although I don't think anyone, even he, doubts that). In my opinion, he's either Fe ego or Se ego; I see very little evidence for Te ego or his even giving a shit about Te.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    If Ashton used Fe, it would certainly be Beta-Fe. Personally, I think he enjoys that kind of thing; I think he enjoys stirring up conflict, for his own personal entertainment. I think he has the ability to rouse this same kind of conflict-admiration in other people. This doesn't necessarily mean he's Fe ego, but it does mean he prefers Se/Ni over Ne/Si (although I don't think anyone, even he, doubts that). In my opinion, he's either Fe ego or Se ego; I see very little evidence for Te ego or his even giving a shit about Te.
    you're right - it is related to Se/Ni. However, he has little understanding and liking for any type of Fe. That function is simply suppressed with him. And he very much 'gives a shit' about Te; you can see it in all of his explanations.

    I have spoken with him many times and it is obvious he isn't my mirror or dual....compare him to someone like herzy...she doesn't have that same sense of control and, to some degree, intensity as he does. Then compare him to bulletsanddoves (maybe not the best example, as being gay can add points to Fe lol)...ashton is far more contained than him.

    I'm not even sure what the arguments for ESTp are?...impulsive and intense = Se ego?
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    i pity you and your blind devotion to ashtonian thought, strrrng.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    i have never seen video of Ashton, so i will have to reserve judgement on that. however i will just warn: be careful not to look for the Alpha kind of Fe more focussed on the immediate emotional atmosphere and conclude no Beta kind - which is more focussed on long-term social role.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    If Ashton used Fe, it would certainly be Beta-Fe. Personally, I think he enjoys that kind of thing; I think he enjoys stirring up conflict, for his own personal entertainment. I think he has the ability to rouse this same kind of conflict-admiration in other people. This doesn't necessarily mean he's Fe ego, but it does mean he prefers Se/Ni over Ne/Si (although I don't think anyone, even he, doubts that). In my opinion, he's either Fe ego or Se ego; I see very little evidence for Te ego or his even giving a shit about Te.
    Yes.

    Regardless of Ashton's type, my impression is that some people have an Alpha-only view of Fe.

    Look at what Filatova wrote about the EIE version of Fe (and she's not alone):

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    Fe – program function: Life for EIE is the sphere of emotions, which he, as a conductor, skillfully orchestrates. He is capable to act on his surroundings by a wide range of his own feelings – from powerful explosions saturated by his dramatic nature, by tragedy or by enthusiasm, by the ability to keep silent for several days and go about with a stone face; his entire form despising and “punishing”, in an unmistakable way, the person whom insulted him. People admire his bright emotionalism, the dramatic nature of his experiences, and his ability to responsd to the most trivial changes in the moods of those around him. His rich world of feelings contains different hues of emotions, which in observing this psycho-type are immediately demonstrated by those surrounding.
    If others act indignantly towards him they qualify themselves as loathesome, malicious, and envious, and action is taken. His source of enthusiasm and delight, without fail, is anything directed to the highest spiritual ideals… In the emotional sphere EIE has a certain standard of expression he uses to discover how the public reacts, to him, emotionally.
    I think this describes Ashton rather well, but even if you disagree, it shows that Fe is not just about taking someone else's emotion in consideration in a "nice Fe" kind of way.

    It seems to me that the disagreement has to do with whether or not you see Jung's typology as the "true" description of functions. In that case, the bigger question is not anyone's particular type, but how we understand socionics.
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    With her (filatova) description in mind, I see Blair as a prototypical ENFj.

    I though Ashton was ENTj from the web cam, so ENFj wouldn't be impossible either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    If Ashton used Fe, it would certainly be Beta-Fe. Personally, I think he enjoys that kind of thing; I think he enjoys stirring up conflict, for his own personal entertainment. I think he has the ability to rouse this same kind of conflict-admiration in other people. This doesn't necessarily mean he's Fe ego, but it does mean he prefers Se/Ni over Ne/Si (although I don't think anyone, even he, doubts that). In my opinion, he's either Fe ego or Se ego; I see very little evidence for Te ego or his even giving a shit about Te.
    i agree. i've long thought him to be an EIE or perhaps SLE. His whole attitude and how he attracts followers(sorry, but it is true) i think is more characteristic of beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    If Ashton used Fe, it would certainly be Beta-Fe. Personally, I think he enjoys that kind of thing; I think he enjoys stirring up conflict,
    Arguing his rigid view point...J Picking points to present an argument well.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    for his own personal entertainment. I think he has the ability to rouse this same kind of conflict-admiration in other people. This doesn't necessarily mean he's Fe ego, but it does mean he prefers Se/Ni over
    I agree



    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Ne/Si (although I don't think anyone, even he, doubts that). In my opinion, he's either Fe ego or Se ego; I see very little evidence for Te ego or his even giving a shit about Te.
    I've considered Fe ego too.

    Possible types
    ISFj
    ENTj
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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