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    "Life is what you make it." Meaning that we must always accept personal responsibility for our own lives... our happiness and wellbeing.


    I could see some ILI's (or perhaps some LIE's who haven't had enough Gamma Se in their environment) needing a more Se explanation of this concept in order for it to click with them. But still, pretty much every Gamma I've known has felt this way to some extent.

    And for the aforementioned Gamma NT's: http://youtube.com/watch?v=TfMKE5b1DyA


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    This philosophy towards life doesn't seem to ring true with Deltas though...

    An LSE may say "sure, whatever you say, Joy " (that is, if they're in a good mood)

    An IEE may say "I see what you're saying, but what about *insert lots of Ne + Fi here*", or they may flat out disagree.

    And the introverts would probably respond along the lines of " ", especially EII's. SLI's may also just flat out disagree.
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    Anyways, the Delta reactions I listed are pretty much guesses, based on my interactions with and observations of Deltas. I'm curious as to what the Gamma and Delta people here this of this perceived difference between our quadras.
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    If you've got a Se PoLR, I would anticipate a reaction as such (or something similar, at least).
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    That reaction is more typical of LII's than EII's, based on my interactions with them.
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    I think we are responsible for our conscious actions to a certain degree, but these actions are heavily influenced by both the external and the internal world. The actions of one person can affect the actions of another, for one thing. I suppose not imposing my will on others is my choice, but really it isn't - people impose on me all the time, either forcing me to react negatively towards them or making me grin and bear it. This can make me very sad, and I don't really choose to be that way. So there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post

    There is an element of humanity that I appreciate with the delta approach, as in they're willing to help a person without telling the person, "Hey man, you did this to yourself." That attitude also gets carried way too far though. They have a tendency to coddle and enable and actually harm people through being over-caring and merciful, rather than seeing the long-range effects of their actions.
    Good point. I do this lots.
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    You don't "make" life. Life, however, has the potential to make fools of us all.
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    "Life is what you make it." Meaning that we must always accept personal responsibility for our own lives... our happiness and wellbeing.


    I could see some ILI's (or perhaps some LIE's who haven't had enough Gamma Se in their environment) needing a more Se explanation of this concept in order for it to click with them. But still, pretty much every Gamma I've known has felt this way to some extent.

    And for the aforementioned Gamma NT's:

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    This philosophy towards life doesn't seem to ring true with Deltas though...

    An LSE may say "sure, whatever you say, Joy " (that is, if they're in a good mood)

    An IEE may say "I see what you're saying, but what about *insert lots of Ne + Fi here*", or they may flat out disagree.

    And the introverts would probably respond along the lines of " ", especially EII's. SLI's may also just flat out disagree.
    Well, I do agree with it to an extent. Though I completely, flat-out disagree with the philosophy that "the weak will perish while the strong will succeed." If you take it in a detached and factual perspective it is logical: bird A died because it couldn't fly to food, while bird B lived because it could. However, it really bothers me when people take it as a philosophy for everything, which is what I find annoying about Gammas sometimes. I see that they make things over-challenging for no reason and create an atmosphere of competition in the "I'll put you down to rise myself up" type of thing. They usually, at least to me, are the type of people that are really good at selling themselves and making themselves look like the best, being able to "succeed," which might well be a Gamma term actually. I look at them sometimes as just wanting to get the money, sometimes even without having the skills, and leaving other people who do in the dust because they are not as good at selling themselves.

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