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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    So did you clash a lot?
    ^ I third that question. (three times lucky right?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    ^ I third that question. (three times lucky right?)
    I want theMime to answer as well, but I know about conflicting relations... I had a conflictor ex - huge fight once a month, broke up 3-4 times, couldn't spend 2 days in the same room without stepping on each other's toes... But we were still good friends. Eventually he (ISTp) met my INFj friend at my wedding and they started dating. I think it's been a year already. so cute.
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
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    Conflicting relationships are not that hard to keep up really if you try really hard not to step on their toes. You can be friends, but that is all. Nothing more than that.

    I have a female friend who is ENTj, we just talk sometimes. I actually said to her today "Two months ago, we used to not be friends, and now we are." She told me "You calmed down."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina View Post
    Eventually he (ISTp) met my INFj friend at my wedding and they started dating. I think it's been a year already. so cute.
    Oh no!!!! Activity dating!!!! I have only had heartbreaking experiences with this. I hope they are different!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina View Post
    I want theMime to answer as well, but I know about conflicting relations... I had a conflictor ex - huge fight once a month, broke up 3-4 times, couldn't spend 2 days in the same room without stepping on each other's toes... But we were still good friends. Eventually he (ISTp) met my INFj friend at my wedding and they started dating. I think it's been a year already. so cute.
    I've only been 'friends' with one conflictor (that I'm sure of anyway). He really disliked me, which I found very disturbing. lol He seemed to disapprove of everything I said, no matter how trivial. At the time I knew nothing of socionics and it really bothered me. I would try to analyse everything I said to him - trying to work out what I'd said wrong. lol Funny - I didn't really dislike him though. I sort of admired him.
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    iei, sle, sli, eii
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    So did you clash a lot?
    Amazingly enough we didn't clash that much. We just went at each other a lot.

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    ENFP
    INFP
    INTP
    INFJ
    ENTP
    ISTP

    a good range... maybe not! I love intuitive people... without them??!
    ENTp... love it

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    IEI
    ESE
    LII
    SEE
    SEI
    Moonlight will fall
    Winter will end
    Harvest will come
    Your heart will mend

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    Alpha

    1) SEI
    2) ILE
    3) ESE/LII, can't say I've had much experience with either of them.

    Beta

    1) LSI
    2) SLE
    3) IEI
    4) EIE-Ni
    5) EIE-Fe

    Gamma

    1) ILI/SEE
    2) LIE
    3) ESI, since someone has to end up at this spot.


    Overall:

    ILI
    SEE
    LIE
    LSI
    Last edited by suedehead; 05-03-2014 at 04:34 PM.

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    Alpha : ILE-Ti
    Beta : LSI-Ti, EIE-Ni
    Gamma: LIE, ESI-Fi
    Delta: EII
    --finest descriptions in the wiki :-D

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    Gamma

    ILI
    SEE- Se
    LIE- Ni

    Alpha

    LII- Ti
    ESE- Fe
    SEI

    I struggle with Deltas :/

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    ILE, SLE, Se-LSI, Ni-IEI, Te-SLI, EII.

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    SEI, LSI, ILI (the benefit ring)

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    ILE, IEI, LIE
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    ENTJ, ENFJ, and ESFJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suedehead View Post
    LSI
    your conflictor?


    Quote Originally Posted by AshSun View Post
    EIE-Ni
    your supervisor?


    Quote Originally Posted by Hemoglobin View Post
    SEE- Se
    your supervisee?


    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    Ni-IEI, Te-SLI
    your supervisee? your supervisor?


    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    SEI, LSI, ILI (the benefit ring)
    good answer


    Quote Originally Posted by Agarina View Post
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    your supervisee?


    I think you guys need a refresher on relations of conflict and supervision:
    These relations require maximum carefulness. Leading function of your conflict partner coincides with your most painful function. He, thus, produces a flood of information about those aspects that you don't pay attention to and don't mention. Communication with a conflicting partner places you under constant tension. There is a sense of impending explosion beneath the surface. Opposite encoding of information leads to a feeling that literally every word of one's conflictor is annoying and brings up internal protest. At times, relations seem to be improving, but at the most inopportune moment conflictor suddenly tells something hurtful to you. Conflict relations can transpire smoothly if both partners are aware of their incompatibility and maintain sufficient distance, carefully trying to maneuver around "sharp corners".
    Much more strict are the relations of social control or audit. Supervisor's dominant function coincides with Supervisee's most vulnerable and painful function. However, in contrast to the relations of conflict, this situation is not symmetric. Supervisor can monitor every step the Supervisee takes, while Supervisee is powerless to resist this influence: all of his strong features "drown" in the appropriate function of the Supervisor. Supervisee tries to resist and even to fight back: puts on a show of deliberate crudeness, orders the Supervisor around, gives him assignments. Things may even progress to use of physical force. In this manner, Supervisee can create a lot of problems for the Supervisor, but the effect in the opposite direction is much more devastating. Close and prolonged contact with one's Supervisor, for example, in a family situation, can have dire consequences for the Supervisee, even the development of mental illness.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Clearly View Post
    your supervisee? your supervisor?
    Subtype modifies the relations. Less focus on the base or creative function means less tension in interaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    Subtype modifies the relations.
    not nearly to that extent, or you're using a system that warps intertype relations into something completely meaningless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    Less focus on the base or creative function means less tension in interaction.
    my weakest function is Ti whether I'm Fi-IEE or Ne-IEE, while the strongest function of both Ne-LII and Ti-LII is Ti; this is the basis for relations of supervision:
    Supervisor's dominant function coincides with Supervisee's most vulnerable and painful function.
    everything unsavory about supervisory relations follows from this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Clearly View Post

    your supervisee?
    I don't like *most* people. In small doses they are fine.

    Key word: small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Clearly View Post
    my weakest function is Ti whether I'm Fi-IEE or Ne-IEE, while the strongest function of both Ne-LII and Ti-LII is Ti; this is the basis for relations of supervision:


    everything unsavory about supervisory relations follows from this
    You might find this interesting. Not that it greatly expands on my point other than to put forward the theory that subtypes will emphasise either Base and Mobilising (along with the accompanying Ignoring and Vulnerable) or the Creative and Suggestive (along with Role and Demonstrative), with the justification that using logic will dampen ethics and using sensing will dampen intuition and vice versa.

    The distinction seems to be one of gradience, that is, a Ne-ENFp is not an ENTp just because intuition (Ne and Ni) and logic (Te and Ti) use are heightened, but nonetheless, more emphasis is placed on intuition and logic instead of sensing and ethics.

    It would make sense that with this in mind, you would find types hitting the weak functions of others more or less frequently depending on subtype.

    I think the best litmus tests of intertype relations are romantic relationships and working together on a decent sized task that requires exchange of ideas, consensus and so on. It's then that you see the difficulties, rather than hanging out or idle chit chat where far less of the true self comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    You might find this interesting. Not that it greatly expands on my point other than to put forward the theory that subtypes will emphasise either Base and Mobilising (along with the accompanying Ignoring and Vulnerable) or the Creative and Suggestive (along with Role and Demonstrative), with the justification that using logic will dampen ethics and using sensing will dampen intuition and vice versa.
    I'm familiar with the theory of vertical subtypes, and to me it seems so... arbitrary. I do kind of agree with you, that subtypes do play a part in the "intensity" of intertype relations; for example, since Fi blocks Ti, Fi-IEE will feel more scrutinized by Ti-LII than by Ne-LII. However, if given enough time, I think Ne-LII would prove to be just as unbearable as Ti-LII for Fi-IEE, which seems to fit with what you're saying here:
    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    It would make sense that with this in mind, you would find types hitting the weak functions of others more or less frequently depending on subtype.

    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    I think the best litmus tests of intertype relations are romantic relationships and working together on a decent sized task that requires exchange of ideas, consensus and so on. It's then that you see the difficulties, rather than hanging out or idle chit chat where far less of the true self comes out.
    I actually agree with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemoglobin View Post
    I don't like *most* people. In small doses they are fine.

    Key word: small.
    haha, fair enough

    sidenote: are you sure you aren't SLI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Clearly View Post
    haha, fair enough

    sidenote: are you sure you aren't SLI?
    Positive.

    I loathe IEE.

    I've had the unfortunate experience of being raised by one, lived with one (house mate), and had to socialize with some due to group dynamics.

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    From Alpha: SEI-Si (my boss, woot)
    From Beta: ?
    From Gamma: ILI-Ni, SEE





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    Delta:

    LSE>EII>SLI/IEE

    I love Louie CK.

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    beta irrationals are closest to home after alpha irrationals for me, with the exception of an occasion lii crush.

    i'm drawn to fe-creative and fi-polr... the camaraderie surrounding weakness in te/ fi (and general "who gives a fuck about these things??") is incredible

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    EII
    IEI
    SLE

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    ESE-Si
    SEI-Fe
    ILI-Ni
    ESI-Se
    LSI-Se
    EIE-Ni
    LIE
    This one depends on the person, but IEI-Fe. Have met some awesome as well as some crazy ones.

    Within my own quadra I strongly prefer LSE-Si to LSE-Te. Don't seem to get along with SLIs much. Other EIIs are hit or miss. IEE-Fis are awesome.

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    ESFp and ENFp. fun, positive, not at all judgmental. ESFp in a large group, they keep everyone having fun. ENFp in a smaller group or one-on-one, interesting conversation and discussion.

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    Fi-ego types are often easy to get along with.

    ENTj and ESFj are really cool.

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    ILE, LIE, SEI and ESE- works everytime with these- no fuss no effort -easy! (:
    Last edited by miss BabyDoll; 12-26-2014 at 01:01 PM.

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    1. ILE, SEI
    2. SEE/IEE

    4.ESE, ILI, LII, EII-Ne - hit or miss, but usually nice and have the potential to be awesome

    I usually get along better with irrationals.



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    I can handle any irrational and any rational from any quadra rubs me the wrong way (or i them).


    Edit: God I see a lot of ESE's in those lists. Those people make me so extremely nervous with their completely fucking up my personal space and all good intentioned scary butting in my business....

    (haha yes i found an excuse to bitch about ESE's)

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    ILE, SEI, ESI, IEI

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    Of the Alphas, ILE and then maybe SEI. SEE for Gammas and IDK about Delta yet. Probably IEE?

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    Unknown type, but I appreciate Gammas and Deltas. The most difficult for me to have decent/lasting relations with are Beta Extroverts.

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    I would probably say LII and ILE although I haven't had that much exposure to them. Whenever I hear of or meet them they seem very likeable
    Last edited by Becca; 08-04-2014 at 03:04 AM.

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    Favourite non-Gammas:
    ENFp

    ISTj

    INFp

    ISTp

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