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    Default Cyclops

    Calls himself SLI, and I think he values Ne.

    However, his attacking style of behaviour I attribute to ILE, upheld by the fact that I believe he is Fe/Ti valuing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salawa View Post
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    Well, he is actually similar to Phaedrus, but slightly different - with a different focus. If we consider ISTps and INTps lookalikes and we consider Phaedrus as an INTp, then his self type as ISTp would make sense.

    Generally, I don't like the practice of going against one's own self type. So, let him be SLI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Well, he is actually similar to Phaedrus, but slightly different - with a different focus.
    Exactly. I identify with Cyclops's description of what creative is to him. If neither of us has creative , then we are probably both deluded.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    If we consider ISTps and INTps lookalikes and we consider Phaedrus as an INTp, then his self type as ISTp would make sense.
    Yes, that's very reasonable. We certainly seem to have a different focus, and that difference seem to be related to the S/N dimension.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Generally, I don't like the practice of going against one's own self type. So, let him be SLI.
    I can see no objective reason, based on everything Cyclops has posted so far, to question the correctness of his self-typing. Those who do, should be expected to put forward a really strong case to back up their claims. If they can't do that, if the only evidence they've got is some subjective impressions or some tiny functions analysis, they should not raise a different opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salawa View Post
    LSI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    Time until Kristiina objects: 5... 4...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Well, he is actually similar to Phaedrus, but slightly different - with a different focus. If we consider ISTps and INTps lookalikes and we consider Phaedrus as an INTp, then his self type as ISTp would make sense.
    Yeah, I've noticed this myself, and I am similar to INTp's IRL, one difference seems lie in decisions..I am basically more certain of things, and INTp's tend to be more open ended, I guess for want of a way to put it.
    Generally, I don't like the practice of going against one's own self type. So, let him be SLI.
    Yeah. I haven't asked for my type to be questioned. I guess it might be interesting to hear what people say, or rather the reasons people put forward, to see how they view socionics and to see typing methods.
    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    Time until Kristiina objects: 5... 4...
    It's like that ED209 out of Robocop (I can't be bothered to look for a picture) but you know the one that goes, 'you have twenty seconds to comply'. Well, facing one of those things, without escape, and with the countdown - that's kind of how I feel before the dominant Fe guns start going aha!

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    ...and anyway... I'm not that predictable, am I?
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
    E3 (probably 3w4)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    Time until Kristiina objects: 5... 4...
    3... 2...1...

    Mhhh... what makes you guys say LSI?! Like really! He has acted like a stubborn jerk at times, but is it really reason to say LSI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    Time until Kristiina objects: 5... 4...
    eh fwiw i might think ezra has a point with leading if only for some similarities i've noticed with users like meatburger.

    @fabie - i have no idea why you're anti-questioning people's types. and the statement regarding phaedrus is only true if you consider phaedrus to be INTp which seems rather debatable by a lot of forum members minus phaedrus himself.
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    i remember pm-ing him asking his type cuz it's not in his sig.
    i think he's LII. It's not on the poll. I think he values Ti.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea View Post
    i remember pm-ing him asking his type cuz it's not in his sig.
    i think he's LII. It's not on the poll. I think he values Ti.
    think i'm momentarily changing my vote to LII, but i'm relatively sure of Ti vs Te preference. at this time i think stating he values Ti is about as much as i can do. i thought perhaps unstable moods was some irrationality-related thing but this seems to be a problem among INTjs as well. if i were to construct an argument as to why i think Ti-dominance is more likely than Te-dominance, it would look something like rick's argument [*!] on the wikisocion consensus list for phaedrus being LSI, as i think a lot of the points he raise as to why phaedrus is more Ti than Te apply as well.

    * rick's argument


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    I've got a bad feeling about this...

    As an aside, I don't really like to question other's types until I've had pretty extensive one-on-one contact to get to know them more closely. So I'm with FDG on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    I've got a bad feeling about this...

    As an aside, I don't really like to question other's types until I've had pretty extensive one-on-one contact to get to know them more closely. So I'm with FDG on this one.
    Hehe yeah you're right. Whats your bad feeling about? I was an advocate of self typing, but people seem pretty hopeless at knowing their own type generally. I must admit there are definately times with Cyclops where i doubt his type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger View Post
    I must admit there are definately times with Cyclops where i doubt his type.
    Why? You have no reason to doubt his type, and you still do it? How can you justify such an unscientific attitude? Are you a charlatan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    Why? You have no reason to doubt his type, and you still do it? How can you justify such an unscientific attitude? Are you a charlatan?
    Im not sure if your kidding or not, but who are you to say i dont have any reason to doubt his type? I know a lot of ISTp's and i have seen what i consider some elements of Ne in his writing. He's also very argumentative which i saw as perhaps a not so common characteristic of ISTp's. I am NeFi so i tend to go on hunches, until the peices fall together.

    I do agree with the general concensus that typing over the net is pretty tough, and i would prefer to meet him in person before im sure of anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger View Post
    Im not sure if your kidding or not, but who are you to say i dont have any reason to doubt his type?
    I'm Phaedrus (no kidding). I and others have already explained the arguments in this thread. Don't you understand them? You simply have no legitimate reason to doubt his type, because all the evidence you have access to suggest that he is the type he thinks he is. You cannot doubt his type without acting illogically, irrationally, and unscientifically. Which means that if you understand that and still doubt his type, then you are necessarily a charlatan, and deserve no respect for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger
    I know a lot of ISTp's and i have seen what i consider some elements of Ne in his writing. He's also very argumentative which i saw as perhaps a not so common characteristic of ISTp's. I am NeFi so i tend to go on hunches, until the peices fall together.
    Every single argument you present here is very poor, and taken all together they make your case weak. The burden of proof is upon you to present a really strong case. If you can't do that, you should not question his self-typing. That was my point, and you should realize that you cannot ignore it.

    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger
    I do agree with the general concensus that typing over the net is pretty tough, and i would prefer to meet him in person before im sure of anything.
    So you agree that it was wrong of you to question his type. Good that we agree on that.

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