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    Default ESFps: what do you think of white logic (Ti) types ?

    I mean : LII's, LSI's, ILE's, and SLE's.

    I know SEE's may have some hostility for , but what do you think of types exactly ?

    Do you think they're rigid ? stone-hearted ? smart ? boring ? attractive ? unfriendly ?

    What do you think of types exactly ?

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    are you sure you really wanna know?

    i view them as boring, irritating, insensitive, closed-minded, and rigid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    are you sure you really wanna know?

    i view them as boring, irritating, insensitive, closed-minded, and rigid.
    Yeah but then ? How do they bore you or irritate you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Yeah but then ? How do they bore you or irritate you ?
    Like that?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    Like that?

    haha pretty much. um ure just not fun and when i try to have fun you evaluate it and in the process attempt to ruin my fun. you're boring because you're predictable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    haha pretty much. um ure just not fun and when i try to have fun you evaluate it and in the process attempt to ruin my fun. you're boring because you're predictable.
    Aren't types interesting at times ? You know, their weighty thinking, their stubbornness, their large emotional scale, their loud and controlling nature ?

    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    my SEE sister described my LII best friend as "too picky, needy, and nosey".. she doesn't know anything about typology. On the flip side, he described her as "a selfish brat".
    SEE's aren't really selfish or unfriendly. They're just boring, pushy, and weak-minded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    are you sure you really wanna know?

    i view them as boring, irritating, insensitive, closed-minded, and rigid.
    Are those opinions set in stone?

    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    haha pretty much. um ure just not fun and when i try to have fun you evaluate it and in the process attempt to ruin my fun. you're boring because you're predictable.
    I've never encountered myself behaving that way. I'll have you know that a good ESI friend of mine said the exact opposite. She said that I was 'scary.' I was taken aback by that comment and I asked what she meant by being scary. She said that I was not so much intimidating, but unlike others, she never knew how I would react or what I would say. In our little group of friends, I was the unpredictable wild card. Another SEE friend of mine said something similar to that effect.
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    my SEE sister described my LII best friend as "too picky, needy, and nosey".. she doesn't know anything about typology. On the flip side, he described her as "a selfish brat".

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    SLEs and ILEs are fine. I don't really notice them using ti.

    LIIs and LSIs seem pointless. they seem to care and get butthurt over ridiculous issues. They cause problems if you don't do what they think is ethical. Then they have these mind numbing comparisons that they expect you to listen to. I think it brainwashes me into hypnosis. I usually start drooling, my eyes go cross, and their words start sounding like morris code.

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    SEE can't stand LSI in a working situation because LSI will be inconsiderate of their feelings and provoke.sensitive logic areas and upset SEE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    SEE can't stand LSI in a working situation because LSI will be inconsiderate of their feelings and provoke.sensitive logic areas and upset SEE
    Actually this is mostly untrue of the INTj. They are considerate on the inside, but they don't like to show it.

    They feel awkward showing consideration, that is all.
    I want to be ISTp.

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    Motivation: to live in a secure, comfortable environment where they can pursue their private interests in depth.


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    INTjs: Great cooks. Socially awkward. Lost inside their own little theory systems.

    Theories are best modelled by Te types who have a good understanding of reality.

    Ti types are too subjective in their understanding. Not even an Fe type would appreciate their private theories about the world.

    Socionics is a science, not a theory of INTjs combining their powers together to make one little rubber band ball.
    I want to be ISTp.

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    Motivation: to live in a secure, comfortable environment where they can pursue their private interests in depth.


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    LSI is ISTJ, right? My boss/buddy is one. Here's how non-work related conversations go:

    Me: Oh my gosh. Do you ever watch those shows on TLC about people who have cheated death?

    Him: Yes, sometimes.

    Me. OK. So there was a guy, he was drunk one night, on the 17th floor of a hotel. He runs down the hall...and you know how they have long windows at the end of the hallway in hotels?

    Him: Yeah

    Me: Ok. So his depth perception got all messed up and the guy RAN through the window! 17 stories up! He fell through the window! He was 350 pounds, and they say his fat saved him. Isn't that nuts?

    Him: Do they have footage of him falling?

    Me: Huh? well...umm, no...

    Him: Impossible. No one can fall 17 stories and live.

    Me: But it was on the news... they interviewed the EMT on site and everything. I can send you the link later on.

    Him: It didn't happen. 17 stories? Give me a break. If you fall 17 stories you are dead.

    Me: But...The guy was talking on TV.. they had pics of him in the hospital and everything.

    Him: I don't believe it.

    Me: Why would they make it up? What would be the point? They say he fell on this belly and his fat saved him!

    Him: I don't believe it

    Me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotSauce View Post
    LSI is ISTJ, right? My boss/buddy is one. Here's how non-work related conversations go:

    Me: Oh my gosh. Do you ever watch those shows on TLC about people who have cheated death?

    Him: Yes, sometimes.

    Me. OK. So there was a guy, he was drunk one night, on the 17th floor of a hotel. He runs down the hall...and you know how they have long windows at the end of the hallway in hotels?

    Him: Yeah

    Me: Ok. So his depth perception got all messed up and the guy RAN through the window! 17 stories up! He fell through the window! He was 350 pounds, and they say his fat saved him. Isn't that nuts?

    Him: Do they have footage of him falling?

    Me: Huh? well...umm, no...

    Him: Impossible. No one can fall 17 stories and live.

    Me: But it was on the news... they interviewed the EMT on site and everything. I can send you the link later on.

    Him: It didn't happen. 17 stories? Give me a break. If you fall 17 stories you are dead.

    Me: But...The guy was talking on TV.. they had pics of him in the hospital and everything.

    Him: I don't believe it.

    Me: Why would they make it up? What would be the point? They say he fell on this belly and his fat saved him!

    Him: I don't believe it

    Me.
    HotSauce, this is exactly the way my LSI GF thinks. She strongly rejects information, regardless of its source, if it doesn't fit into her idea of what can and can't be true.
    I'm not sure how she initially determines what can and can't be true.
    Half the time she suspects I'm lying to her, even though I only tell her the straight truth. For example, she doesn't believe a person can get hired as an Engineer without having a degree in Engineering. She says, it just doesn't happen. The fact that it happened to me and to a number of people I know gets rejected. This might have something to do with having natural faith in well-defined systems (LSI's are system-builders), or having EIE's as Duals, or maybe something else. I dunno. She's actually brilliant and very creative in almost every other way.

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    Ti doms are so annoying because they ask me way too many questions that aren't personal and seem to be asked just to annoy me. LIIs are kinda better because they're democratic = not a total douchebag about it.


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