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    Can an SLI and an EIE be the same Enneagram type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Can an SLI and an EIE be the same Enneagram type?

    What do you think?
    Totally impossible of course.

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    Of course, there is everyone's favourite Enneagram type; the Six. I think you could definitely find an SLI Six and an EIE Six.

    Concerning other types, machintruc claims that he knows of an example of an SLI Three, and I doubt he'd doubt the existence of an EIE Three. I doubt he does know of a correctly type SLI Three, but the possibility remains. Some may argue for the existence of a SLI Seven and an EIE Seven. Perhaps the same goes for Eight. Past this, I see it as very, very unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Of course, there is everyone's favourite Enneagram type; the Six. I think you could definitely find an SLI Six and an EIE Six.
    That's probably the best shot, but it still doesn't work.

    Concerning other types, machintruc claims that he knows of an example of an SLI Three
    Such a creature simply doesn't exist. And almost everything machintruc says about the Enneagram types is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    That's probably the best shot, but it still doesn't work.

    Such a creature simply doesn't exist. And almost everything machintruc says about the Enneagram types is wrong.
    Enneagram doesn't even use Jung's system... I would expect it to work on a completely different level. And how can you prove that something doesn't happen?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    And how can you prove that something doesn't happen?
    Reductio. (It's the only logical technique I know of that sounds like a Harry Potter spell.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    Enneagram doesn't even use Jung's system... I would expect it to work on a completely different level. And how can you prove that something doesn't happen?
    There is no definite formal proof, of course, but you can try demonstrate its ridiculousness and unlikelihood.

    The enneagram types have at least one dimension along the four dichotomies that is very obvious: Every 1 is a J, every 2 is an F, every 3 is an E, every 4 is an N, every 5 is an IT, every 6 is ... well, this is not as clear as some of the other types, but most of the 6s are certainly IJs (ISFj is the prototypical type), every 7 is a P, every 8 is an E, and every 9 is an IP. You can probably make finer distinctions than that, and for example say that every 8 is not only an E but also a T. And you can say that every 4 is not only an N but also an F and most likely also an I. So, if you want to claim that an SLI and an ESFj can be the same type in the Enneagram, you have to find a place for them where they can exist together without ceasing to exist -- it must make sense and be in line with the four dimensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Of course, there is everyone's favourite Enneagram type; the Six. I think you could definitely find an SLI Six and an EIE Six.

    Concerning other types, machintruc claims that he knows of an example of an SLI Three, and I doubt he'd doubt the existence of an EIE Three. I doubt he does know of a correctly type SLI Three, but the possibility remains. Some may argue for the existence of a SLI Seven and an EIE Seven. Perhaps the same goes for Eight. Past this, I see it as very, very unlikely.
    How about an SLI 4 and an EIE 4 ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    How about an SLI 4 and an EIE 4 ?
    The Four's major concern with individuality seems to go against Si base, and for a type who sees so much importance in personal expression, Te creative seems even more unlikely. I'd be very interested to hear someone's case for an SLI Four, explaining how the kind of creativity of and the strong emotional expression of the Four resonates with extremely dry, peaceful, go-with-the-flow character of the SLI.

    I see little problem in a Four's being an EIE. Although they're more likely to be of the IP temperament (and thus IEI), this is still a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    I'd be very interested to hear someone's case for an SLI Four, explaining how the kind of creativity of and the strong emotional expression of the Four resonates with extremely dry, peaceful, go-with-the-flow character of the SLI.
    Well that's just on the outside, of course. I will speak for myself but I think that most other SLIs are also very different on the inside, having a rich and emotionally vivid (and vulnerable) inner world. I do recognize my super-ego functions in type 4 descriptions, but they are still explained in a way I can relate to them. I also have a huge inclination towards creativity and strong emotional expression, thru art forms for example, while still preserving my relatively dry, peaceful and pleasure seeking character.

    The Four's major concern with individuality seems to go against Si base, and for a type who sees so much importance in personal expression, Te creative seems even more unlikely.
    I don't see a reason for this to be true.
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