Goddamnit I have Ni

[hellothere]

Ah, my bad. In the OP you were talking about not valuing something and I figured you were talking about Ni and/or in the valued/devalued kind of terminology.

lol I read it the same way "I just don't value it" but he actually said "I don't just value it"

[munenori2]

lol I read it the same way "I just don't value it" but he actually said "I don't just value it"

Hahahaha, I looked it over three or four times and I still didn't see it right till you pointed it out!

I'm blind!

[mikemex]

You clash with IEEs because they are less logical and less scientific than you are.

Generalizing is bad. It's like stating that everyone around here is homosexual.

[Phaedrus]

Generalizing is bad. It's like stating that everyone around here is homosexual.

False generalizations are bad, true generalizations are not bad. If I would say that everyone around here is homosexual, I would be making a false generalization. But I didn't do that. I didn't even say that IEEs in general are less logical and less scientific than some other type. What I actually did say was that IEEs are less logical and less scientific than Ezra, and that happens to be a true generalization as far as I can tell. At least I know for sure that there is no IEE in the whole world that is more logical and more scientific in his or her approach than I am myself. And I see some clear similarities in thinking and general approach between myself and Ezra, which probably is due to us both having in our ego blocks.

[Elro]

Generalizing is bad.

Is ALL generalizing bad?

[Ezra]

Ezra, why do you think you are Se valueing?

Because Beta and Gamma fit me better than Alpha or Delta, and I put this down to my valuing or being proficient in Se, and because my entire life is based around achieving something worthwhile - getting a good job, making good money - with a constant eye on my future, especially the ways in which what I do now will affect me at a later date (this is primarily Ni valuing, but if I explain why I am Ni valuing as well as Se valuing, it gives a pretty good case for the fact that I'm Se/Ni valuing; not Ne/Si valuing).

You ever notice that you draw so much attention to what people perceive you as, that you let your identity be based on other's supposed opinions of you? You secretly think it's a strength that a few people call you these things- and you glorify your own ego by repeating the names people call you. It's like your own way of re-claiming the word '******.'

Point blank: I see you calling YOURSELF those things about 100 times more than I see other people calling you those things.

I'm just saying, you're not very tough or combative to me. You are more good-natured and frat boy-ish which is why I like you (in a friend way so get over yourself if you go there). God what is up with me and the phrase 'good-natured' lately. I use it way too much. Anyways I just don't get why you always talk about aggression, and being combative when you're pretty easy-going and all. Why the hell do you think you have to act like some cliched male-ass all the time? I hate guys that act like that. If you really WERE tough, I wouldn't even approach you in the first place. So yes, I see your 'real life' self more....and I know what you're doing here is just male bravado because you're bored and curious like most everybody else.

The thing is, I never claimed I was tough. People put that name on me. I am loud around people, and they get annoyed; I'm renowned for my loudness, and my hearty laugh. I am unintentionally aggressive in my speech, and this is simply because I'm a very enthusiastic and energetic person; it's my way of expressing my energy. It's not some tough guy act I put on to impress others; this would be completely foolish. So, I'm not aggressive in the sense that I go around picking fights with everyone, but it comes through a lot in my speech, which indicates to others that I do have a lot of energy. As for the domination that I often attribute to myself, this is mainly a subset of my aggression levels. Because I'm so enthusiastic in argument and conversation, it looks like I'm vehemently attacking people, but in reality, I just get fuelled from debates with others. It's true, I can be a very bad listener, and I love to put my view across, which makes people think I am further attacking them in some way, which is why I often make a conscious effort to be enthusiastic about their opinion or point of view by saying "hmm, that's actually really interesting; I haven't considered that before".

Do you understand now what I mean about being loud, dominating and aggressive? Of course it's based around others' perceptions of me. That's why I told you when I first came here. It's not that I can't think for myself, or because I wanted to big myself up in some way, it's just that I wanted you to get a good picture of how I am in real life.

Obviously, I am physically a weakling, and my figure can look womanly. My strength is in my willpower, my mindframe, and my energy, so I concentrate on this. I don't need a big, buff, muscular body to go with it. I've had a lot of fights with others at school, more than most people in my year actually; I wasn't picked on, but the bully victim would attack me, because he knew I was one of the weakest people. I either beat him (sometimes because of his low morale* (no one liked him), sometimes because everyone would pile in and finish him off while I walked off feeling "all that"), or it was a draw (end of break ("recess" to you Americans), it was broken up by a member of staff or by a sixth former). I fought a few others, and never lost as such.

Is ALL generalizing bad?

Generally, yes.

*Once, the crowd of people surrounding one guy and myself actually made him cry, and he wanted to shake hands, so I did so, despite the goading: "HIT THE FUCKER! FINISH HIM OFF!".