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    Default Goddamnit I have Ni

    I know I do. I don't just value it. I have it. It's better than my Se for god's sake. I also know I have Ti, because it clashes with my mother's and best friend's IEEness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    I know I do. I don't just value it. I have it. It's better than my Se for god's sake. I also know I have Ti, because it clashes with my mother's and best friend's IEEness.
    If you have Ni, then I'm the agressive Se type!

    Sometimes it amazes me how you can say amazingly stupid things. First UDP is LSI and now you have Ni. I'm not sure I want to know what's next.
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    Ezra, I've said this to you before, and at the risk of giving you yet more types 'thrown' in your direction, I still think you should consider ENTj or ENFj especially ENFj. Sorry Kristiina if somehow you don't want me to say this but I think yourself and Ezra seem quite similar in your postings, but thats not the only reason i'd lean towards ENTj but especially ENFj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Ezra, I've said this to you before, and at the risk of giving you yet more types 'thrown' in your direction, I still think you should consider ENTj or ENFj especially ENFj. Sorry Kristiina if somehow you don't want me to say this but I think yourself and Ezra seem quite similar in your postings, but thats not the only reason i'd lean towards ENTj but especially ENFj.
    and I actually wanna comment this too. I would be fairly ok with seeing Ezra as an EIE. That would be a lot more acceptable than LSI UDP. Ezra is easily Beta and I remember I initially typed him as LSI and I don't accept anyone as my duals. It's easier to accept people as my identical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    I know I do. I don't just value it. I have it. It's better than my Se for god's sake.
    Pull yourself together and realize that you are a LIE. This self-typing charade of yours has become ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I also know I have Ti, because it clashes with my mother's and best friend's IEEness.
    Of course it does. You clash with IEEs because they are less logical and less scientific than you are. I also clash with them, but the explanation is not that we are Ti ego types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina View Post
    If you have Ni, then I'm the agressive Se type!

    Sometimes it amazes me how you can say amazingly stupid things. First UDP is LSI and now you have Ni. I'm not sure I want to know what's next.
    Argue with others about the typing of UDP; not me. I originally thought UDP wasn't an LSI; it's only recently that people have made me think it might be a possibility. Kristiina, you don't know me, so you don't know I have Ni.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Ezra, I've said this to you before, and at the risk of giving you yet more types 'thrown' in your direction, I still think you should consider ENTj or ENFj especially ENFj. Sorry Kristiina if somehow you don't want me to say this but I think yourself and Ezra seem quite similar in your postings, but thats not the only reason i'd lean towards ENTj but especially ENFj.
    Seriously, this is nothing new. People have come up with Ni creative for me since I got here. But they saw Beta Extravert. At first it was EIE, then they thought SLE because of my apparently good Se. I've always seen LIE as a possibility, but no one has ever considered it until recently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    Pull yourself together and realize that you are a LIE. This self-typing charade of yours has become ridiculous.
    Yeah, but how do you know this?

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    Anyway, I must be good with Ni; I had a premonition a few months ago.

    In my dream, McDonald's was getting really shitty business; it was on the verge of shutting down. Then a month later, the exact same McDonald's I walked into in my hometown, Macclesfield, shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Anyway, I must be good with Ni; I had a premonition a few months ago.

    In my dream, McDonald's was getting really shitty business; it was on the verge of shutting down. Then a month later, the exact same McDonald's I walked into in my hometown, Macclesfield, shut down.
    Well, I'm convinced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Anyway, I must be good with Ni; I had a premonition a few months ago.

    In my dream, McDonald's was getting really shitty business; it was on the verge of shutting down. Then a month later, the exact same McDonald's I walked into in my hometown, Macclesfield, shut down.
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    No joke, that actually happened.

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    i think it's reasonable that you might have Ni.

    but if this is Ni, i'm not even sure i have it. my mom has dreams/premonitions like this, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Anyway, I must be good with Ni; I had a premonition a few months ago.

    In my dream, McDonald's was getting really shitty business; it was on the verge of shutting down. Then a month later, the exact same McDonald's I walked into in my hometown, Macclesfield, shut down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    i think it's reasonable that you might have Ni.

    but if this is Ni, i'm not even sure i have it. my mom has dreams/premonitions like this, though.
    I think Ezra was joking. Ni isn't a mystical force of prophecising future events , it can be quite good at seeing possible outcomes though.

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    I don't know what type Ezra is, but at this point I don't think LIE should necessarily be ruled out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I don't know what type Ezra is, but at this point I don't think LIE should necessarily be ruled out.
    I agree.

    I could more easily see LIE than EIE.

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    Ezra, correct me if I'm wrong, but I happen believe that you have a great respect for facts and empirical evidence. The indications for you being a LIE are many and they are strong, but the most striking empirical evidence for LIE is to be found in your signature. Take a close look at it, and think seriously about the information that is actually there in plain view for everyone to see, and what it actually means. Test results usually tell us something, and in your case they all point in the exact same direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    @baby: I have some ideas about that -- Possibly Ezra is an ISTj. I would bet somebody in the process of developing their creative function typically comes across as more compensatory and annoying than someone with that same function already secure as their base. It's been noted we almost take our base functions for granted.

    Also I notice similarities between machintruc, myself, and Ezra in our use of lists, spreadsheets, and other concise generalizations and correlations when studying typologies (you haven't seen as many of mine -- but i have lots -- on my hard drive and in my head, so to speak. i just can't be bothered to post them all because i have better things to do than justify all my reasoning to other people whose advice i don't entirely trust anyway. )

    but basically i think the above is some combination of alpha and beta accepting Ti -- hypothesizing systems, although concisely and quickly enough for some personal implementation. ISTj-Se's in comparison would shy away from any hypothesizing (suppose they resemble gamma more than alpha). ISTj-Se implementation instead might be guided more by sensing and feeling (hence the more earthy and visceral characteristics of that subtype that i am rather afraid of posessing myself!)

    also notice that typology correlations are static generalizations of people overall, as oppsed to any sort of dynamic understanding of a specific emotional (or factual) environment (as one evolves.)

    and to be clear, i was only comparing Ezra to my ESTp acquaintance with respect to Ni super-id. indeed, my acquaintance is much less "hardassy" (and more into bragging about how he can influence other people and get any woman he wants. -- secure Se + annoying Fe HA in his case?)
    Yeah, this is why I had thought he might a rational type before. I know a lot of ISTjs who clumsily overemphasize their creative function and it definitely stikes me as annoying and overbearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    You clash with IEEs because they are less logical and less scientific than you are.
    Generalizing is bad. It's like stating that everyone around here is homosexual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemex View Post
    Generalizing is bad. It's like stating that everyone around here is homosexual.
    False generalizations are bad, true generalizations are not bad. If I would say that everyone around here is homosexual, I would be making a false generalization. But I didn't do that. I didn't even say that IEEs in general are less logical and less scientific than some other type. What I actually did say was that IEEs are less logical and less scientific than Ezra, and that happens to be a true generalization as far as I can tell. At least I know for sure that there is no IEE in the whole world that is more logical and more scientific in his or her approach than I am myself. And I see some clear similarities in thinking and general approach between myself and Ezra, which probably is due to us both having in our ego blocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemex View Post
    Generalizing is bad.
    Is ALL generalizing bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Ezra, why do you think you are Se valueing?
    Because Beta and Gamma fit me better than Alpha or Delta, and I put this down to my valuing or being proficient in Se, and because my entire life is based around achieving something worthwhile - getting a good job, making good money - with a constant eye on my future, especially the ways in which what I do now will affect me at a later date (this is primarily Ni valuing, but if I explain why I am Ni valuing as well as Se valuing, it gives a pretty good case for the fact that I'm Se/Ni valuing; not Ne/Si valuing).

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    You ever notice that you draw so much attention to what people perceive you as, that you let your identity be based on other's supposed opinions of you? You secretly think it's a strength that a few people call you these things- and you glorify your own ego by repeating the names people call you. It's like your own way of re-claiming the word '******.'

    Point blank: I see you calling YOURSELF those things about 100 times more than I see other people calling you those things.

    I'm just saying, you're not very tough or combative to me. You are more good-natured and frat boy-ish which is why I like you (in a friend way so get over yourself if you go there). God what is up with me and the phrase 'good-natured' lately. I use it way too much. Anyways I just don't get why you always talk about aggression, and being combative when you're pretty easy-going and all. Why the hell do you think you have to act like some cliched male-ass all the time? I hate guys that act like that. If you really WERE tough, I wouldn't even approach you in the first place. So yes, I see your 'real life' self more....and I know what you're doing here is just male bravado because you're bored and curious like most everybody else.
    The thing is, I never claimed I was tough. People put that name on me. I am loud around people, and they get annoyed; I'm renowned for my loudness, and my hearty laugh. I am unintentionally aggressive in my speech, and this is simply because I'm a very enthusiastic and energetic person; it's my way of expressing my energy. It's not some tough guy act I put on to impress others; this would be completely foolish. So, I'm not aggressive in the sense that I go around picking fights with everyone, but it comes through a lot in my speech, which indicates to others that I do have a lot of energy. As for the domination that I often attribute to myself, this is mainly a subset of my aggression levels. Because I'm so enthusiastic in argument and conversation, it looks like I'm vehemently attacking people, but in reality, I just get fuelled from debates with others. It's true, I can be a very bad listener, and I love to put my view across, which makes people think I am further attacking them in some way, which is why I often make a conscious effort to be enthusiastic about their opinion or point of view by saying "hmm, that's actually really interesting; I haven't considered that before".

    Do you understand now what I mean about being loud, dominating and aggressive? Of course it's based around others' perceptions of me. That's why I told you when I first came here. It's not that I can't think for myself, or because I wanted to big myself up in some way, it's just that I wanted you to get a good picture of how I am in real life.

    Obviously, I am physically a weakling, and my figure can look womanly. My strength is in my willpower, my mindframe, and my energy, so I concentrate on this. I don't need a big, buff, muscular body to go with it. I've had a lot of fights with others at school, more than most people in my year actually; I wasn't picked on, but the bully victim would attack me, because he knew I was one of the weakest people. I either beat him (sometimes because of his low morale* (no one liked him), sometimes because everyone would pile in and finish him off while I walked off feeling "all that"), or it was a draw (end of break ("recess" to you Americans), it was broken up by a member of staff or by a sixth former). I fought a few others, and never lost as such.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    Is ALL generalizing bad?
    Generally, yes.

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