Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
Agree with Anndelise. I'm not particularly jealous or competitive, but there's this Se thing going with ESFps and I kind of get dragged into this weird thing with them. I used to feel that my ESFp sister-in-law (now ex) was competing with me all the time and it drove me crazy. And I've had a lot of ESFp friends in my life, and the only real problem we have is that I feel dragged into weird competitions, often over NOTHING, from time to time. I don't think she did it on purpose though. I think it's just natural for her to continually judge where she is on a power structure with other people (creative Se) and it made me uncomfortable, and I was probably clumsy in my response to it.
I don't think my daughter does what she does on purpose either. And I know that I'm very sensitive to some of the things she does because my issues with my father and the things that HE does. So it is quite possible that sometime when my daughter was really really young, she did something normal, and I reacted because of my experience with my father, and then she reacted to my reaction and ...yep,....downward spiral.

And I don't think all ESFps are like that one psycho-bitch from hell that I mentioned above (nor my father). OMG, the stories I could tell of her, quite similar to munenori's. But even with the normal ESFps (the healthy ones), I just can't figure out how I got drawn into such weirdness in terms of competition, and yes, as you said, over absolutely nothing.

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Since coming to socionics I've wondered how much of it could be from the aggressor/victim thing that ESFps come from, that whole push/pull thing that's sorta related to that. But whether or not that is involved, I do definitely think that it has something to do with the base Se (esfp) vs role Se (enfp) with both having Fi creative and both being EP/EFp. (I think even our Te HA differs in purpose/affect as well)

L&LL, is it primarily ENFps that you see this jealousy/competition stuff from or is it other deltans too? Can you give us some examples of what you were referring to?