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    Default VERY offensive description of ESI-ISFj

    WARNING: If you don't want to be offended, STOP READING NOW.

    This thread is a joke. It may even look bad for those who don't like this style of humour. You'll either like or hate this joke. I'm open to critiques though.





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    I hate ESI's so fucking much. Why do I ? I'll explain a little :

    ESI's are totally retarded. Less than SEE's, but they're still retarded. They're a whole bunch of rednecks who are obsessed with morality and power.

    They somehow look like a soft version of LSI. Besides, they're not as tough-minded as them. Their is adapted to rather than .

    But why don't I like them ? First, because of their - ; then, because of their +.

    What does - mean exactly ? It means that ESI's are full of hate. + is love, and - is hate. ESI's hate everyone of the whole mankind, except themselves, because ESI's are egocentric.

    And what does + mean exactly ? It means that ESI's are precise, pushy, and goal-oriented achievers. Like other Gammas, they are obsessed with success and self-image.

    ESI's are superficial capitalists. They like , but can't do by themselves. They can be found easily on trading milieux or such, doing diplomatic things.

    Besides being rednecks, all ESI's are freemasons who study the Kabbalah. They see everything as attracting and repulsing, even obscure esoteric abstractions, such as hebrew letters or such. They're attracted by .

    ESI's like to intimidate others. They think something like "if someone is vulnerable, he's easier to control". They like to beat their wives, because they consider them as objects. ESI's think that feminists are stupid hippie left-wingers. ESI's justify domestic violence by "that's because I love them". But the means ESI's show love is totally, totally dumb.

    ESI's are attracted by LIE's. Why ? What can make them attract to each other ? Both are antisocial, paranoid, and misanthropic types. Both think that life is some kind of video game where you have to accumulate money.

    LIE's are total nerds. They have a very high IQ, but besides, they're all unfriendly retards, or at best, superficially friendly. Like ESI's. If an LIE is selling you something, he'll simulate friendliness, but LIE's only friend is money. When they relate to people, it's all about fucking money.

    So why are ESI's attracted to them ? I don't know, just forget about it. However ESI's don't like LIE's either. They just like the business that's running between them. For Gammas, friendship doesn't exist. Gammas see hate and hostility as a normal attitude.

    Let's explain all variants of ESI's :

    E1 : Work hard because it's perceived as "good". They think life is only work, and hate not to work.
    E2 : Are like they love you, but they hate you. Somewhat bubbly and girly.
    E3 : Liars. Total fucking liars. Their tells them not to lie, so they're likely to be frustrated and to hate their lies.
    E6 : Stupid reckless nerds. Mistrusting and hostile. Look like duty fulfillers, but actually, they're just hateful nerds.
    E7 : Socialites. Entertainers. They're likely to look girly, and to do girly things all the time. hmm... is their any hate in them ?
    E8 : Total butches. Hateful dictators. They're likely to be mystics that are attracted by morbid imagery.

    That's why it's hard to define ESI's. But who cares ? Even LIE's don't. But it's quite safe to say that ESI's are the incarnation of hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    it's all about fucking money.
    Sorry, no. Fucking money is not a pleasant activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    ESI's are attracted by LIE's. Why ? What can make them attract to each other ? Both are antisocial, paranoid, and misanthropic types. Both think that life is some kind of video game where you have to accumulate money.

    LIE's are total nerds. They have a very high IQ, but besides, they're all unfriendly retards, or at best, superficially friendly. Like ESI's. If an LIE is selling you something, he'll simulate friendliness, but LIE's only friend is money. When they relate to people, it's all about fucking money.

    So why are ESI's attracted to them ? I don't know, just forget about it. However ESI's don't like LIE's either. They just like the business that's running between them. For Gammas, friendship doesn't exist. Gammas see hate and hostility as a normal attitude.

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    That's why it's hard to define ESI's. But who cares ? Even LIE's don't. But it's quite safe to say that ESI's are the incarnation of hate.
    It makes total sense that you'd see it that way. LIEs and ESIs hate those who deserve to be hated.
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    your use of emphasis words such as "very"... "stupid"... words like total, etc. you know, universals... well anyway, your use of these words is excessive, and it ends up working against you.. where everything is emphasized, so nothing seems emphasized. Get it? Your writing style is terrible, basically.. and I wasn't offended by the description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    your use of emphasis words such as "very"... "stupid"... words like total, etc. you know, universals... well anyway, your use of these words is excessive, and it ends up working against you.. where everything is emphasized, so nothing seems emphasized. Get it? Your writing style is terrible, basically.. and I wasn't offended by the description.
    You can notice that this time, I used other words, such as "freemason" or "antisocial".

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    haha! Good stuff!
    Te-INTp/ILI, my wife: Fi-ISFj/ESI, with laser beam death rays for ESTp/SLEs, lol
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    Very excessive.

    nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    It makes total sense that you'd see it that way. LIEs and ESIs hate those who deserve to be hated.
    that's part of what makes them hypocrites

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    that's part of what makes them hypocrites
    And, thus my friends, the set of people deserving of hate grows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    that's part of what makes them hypocrites
    Only if you think hating something makes you deserving of hate.

    (if you think that, you're stupid)

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Only if you think hating something makes you deserving of hate.

    (if you think that, you're stupid)
    How? Don't you know anything about typology? The whole idea behind it, is there are multiple perspectives on the same information. So if you are looking at information in one way, which leads you to hate how it is existing in the other way.. simultaneously from the perspective of the other way, your information is just as deserving of whatever "hate" you are perscribing to the difference in the two informations energies... It is like this: orange hates apple, because apple is different then orange. Apple looks at orange, and sees the same differential as orange sees in apple... Apple could validly claim the same hatred toward orange. But in the case of LIE, orange is trying to pretend this doesn't exist.. it is a hypocritical point of view.. where in light of a larger context you hold a self contradictory position. Hypocracy is always defined in light of the greater perspective. A hypocrites perspective does not see itself as hypocritical.. people are not consciously hypocritical; if they were, consciousness would reconcile the information and eliminate the descrepancy. Etc.
    P.S.> fuck you
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    How? Don't you know anything about typology? The whole idea behind it, is there are multiple perspectives on the same information. So if you are looking at information in one way, which leads you to hate how it is existing in the other way.. simultaneously from the perspective of the other way, your information is just as deserving of whatever "hate" you are perscribing to the difference in the two informations energies... It is like this: orange hates apple, because apple is different then orange. Apple looks at orange, and sees the same differential as orange sees in apple... Apple could validly claim the same hatred toward orange. But in the case of LIE, orange is trying to pretend this doesn't exist.. it is a hypocritical point of view.. where in light of a larger context you hold a self contradictory position. Hypocracy is always defined in light of the greater perspective. A hypocrites perspective does not see itself as hypocritical.. people are not consciously hypocritical. Etc.
    P.S.> fuck you
    That was perhaps the dumbest thing I have ever read on this forum, and that's saying a lot.

    First: hypocrisy*

    Now let me paraphrase what you wrote:

    "I hate John because John is "different" from me. In this case, we'll say the difference between John and myself is that John has molested my son and strangled him to death, and I have not. John also hates me, because I did not have sex with and strangle my son, so his hatred is just as valid as mine, because he sees an equal amount of difference between he and I that I see."

    This in not a valid argument because you make a mistake in thinking that people hate one another simply because they're "different". Wrong. People hate each other because they see attributes that they don't like. Hating something just because it is different makes no sense. That's like saying I hate something because it is blue; blue isn't intrinsically hateable, so there has to be an attribute of blue that I hate, which in turn makes me hate the blue thing. It's not the blue that I hate, it's the attribute that I associate with blue that I therefore see in this hypothetical hated object. I don't hate John because he killed my son and I didn't. That makes no sense. I hate him because killing my son was wrong and because it directly affected me in a very negative way. I don't hate John "because he's different". I hate the "person John" because he has the attribute of "having killed my son".

    With that in mind, when we look back to your affair with the orange and apple hating one another, we cannot establish any evidence to suggest hypocrisy on either side, because the existence of hypocrisy cannot derived from the known facts. All we know is that the apple and orange hate each other, but since they cannot hate each other for the sole reason that the other is different, we are left to speculate on the origins of their mutual hatred, which is irrelevant. Remember, for the hatred of either to qualify them as hypocrites, each would have to be committing a double standard against the other, hating him for doing something that he knows himself to have done, for reasons no better than those that he used to justify his own actions.

    So the question arises: How does hating someone who deserves to be hated (in this instance, we'll use John the pedophile) necessarily make me a hypocrite? It's not simply difference that I'm hating, as you suggested, since that is impossible; I certainly haven't done anything similar to what John has done, nor have I committed any kind of double standard that would have in any way endorsed what John did, directly or indirectly. So what, exactly, is hypocritical about hating him? In fact, when we take away your "hating differences" fallacy, what is intrinsically hypocritical about any hatred?

    The answer? Nothing. There is nothing intrinsically hypocritical about hating anything.

    Incidentally, "nothing" is also the answer to what was going on in your head when you concocted such a flimsy, childish argument.

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